Would YOU buy a Norinco M14 if the price doubles?

Hitzy said:
As long as someone does some serious QC inspections on these rifles somewhere along the supply chain that would justify the price increase. If I was guaranteed proper headspace, properly indexed barrel, properly fit bolt, straight gas system/sights/flash hider, fiberglass or hardwood stock, then $750 isn't so crazy. They way they are now.....not a chance.
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IMHO a buyer really shouldn't have to play with a brand-new product (no matter what it is) just to get it to work the way it should have come from the factory.
 
I would be hesitant to buy if the price doubled. But if it only went up to the amount some are claiming, (600-750) I'd still be interested. Of course, I'll be waiting to see if the quality has improved enough to warrant the increase in price!

If the quality of build remains piss-poor, I might as well save my money and get a Springfield!
 
Probably not, at least not right away until I see the new ones.

If I was to have another M14 style rifle built, I would buy one of the older norcs just for the receiver to use in a custom build. Not many are aware of this, but the norc receiver was properly forged and made to the original usgi specs, it is the one chinese part that is good to go.

All the other parts on these rifles can be hit or miss, consider them a bonus you got with your nice affordable forged receiver.
Will these new manufacture receivers be as good as the old ones were? Made on the same forge? Properly like the originals? Will they be in spec? Still made in Kunming Yunan at arsenal 356? That will remain to be seen.

The reason for my skepticism is that they have not made these receivers in some time, all the ones we currently have were all made a long time ago and supplies are drying up.
 
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Hmmmmm. I am a little slow, and can't do math in my head, so let me get the pencil out and my moral and intellectual superiors on the forum can check my work:

If I recall the cool kids are building match rifles out of the Norks and can spend as much as their wives will let them but they seem to be coming in around $1800.00~$2000.00 for a match grade rifle. The boys at Springfield seem to be wanting $2800.00 for match guns and go up from there.

An $800.00 stock Nork, right out of the box, puts it in the same price range as the springfield once the mods are done and the smoke clears.

It may still be a viable way to go, because you would be building that rifle from the ground up and getting exactly what you want - whereas the stock Springfield is a mighty fine gun but if you want to pimp it then the price will go up from that $2800.00 figure.

That is assuming we are talking about tuned, match target guns. I know some of you guys are putting them in the new modular chassis that makes them look like AR's too and I have no idea what prices are like when you start going that way.
 
One Lung Wonder said:
Hmmmmm. I am a little slow, and can't do math in my head, so let me get the pencil out and my moral and intellectual superiors on the forum can check my work:

If I recall the cool kids are building match rifles out of the Norks and can spend as much as their wives will let them but they seem to be coming in around $1800.00~$2000.00 for a match grade rifle. The boys at Springfield seem to be wanting $2800.00 for match guns and go up from there.

An $800.00 stock Nork, right out of the box, puts it in the same price range as the springfield once the mods are done and the smoke clears.

It may still be a viable way to go, because you would be building that rifle from the ground up and getting exactly what you want - whereas the stock Springfield is a mighty fine gun but if you want to pimp it then the price will go up from that $2800.00 figure.

That is assuming we are talking about tuned, match target guns. I know some of you guys are putting them in the new modular chassis that makes them look like AR's too and I have no idea what prices are like when you start going that way.
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After all, how much would YOU pay for someone else's match grade norinco, if it goes up on the EE? good investment for the original purchaser?
 
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mkrnel said:
I am sure the price will go up, that is what the dealers are being told too.

Another cause for the price increase is the falling Canadian dollar, all these imported guns are bought with US dollars or Euro's. Same goes with the ones you would be bring in from the states, as our dollar drops against the USD all imported stuff will go up in price.
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Actually our dollar is holding its own but for some reason the US dollar is going up.
 
J996 said:
Not many are aware of this, but the norc receiver was properly forged and made to the original usgi specs, it is the one chinese part that is good to go.
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We are aware they are forged. Not sure how properly given how they are properly headspaced and indexed. What not many are aware of is what that means. In fact lots of the forum experts make quotes to the effect that Norinco's are all forged and SAI's all cast.
 
gunguy23 said:
I think the new m305's will be of higher quality and be worth the extra 250 bucks. There is still a big price difference between spending $700 for the norinco and $1700 for a springfield.
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Not sure where you bought your Norinco M305 for $250.00 but do tell.
More like going from $500.00 to $1000.00 if it is doubling and I would rather spend &1000.00 on a Springfield as opposed to an M305 plus upgrades costing me the same or more for a lesser rifle.
 
Already have two...so no...plan is for a couple LRB builds in the distant future. Two Chinese and two American to keep things even. ;)
 
Seafury said:
We are aware they are forged. Not sure how properly given how they are properly headspaced and indexed. What not many are aware of is what that means. In fact lots of the forum experts make quotes to the effect that Norinco's are all forged and SAI's all cast.
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Seafury, you and I have discussed this topic before, and more than once I might add. So once again, how some 15 year old Chinese worker installs the barrel and bolt (two separate parts that I said were hit or miss) onto the receiver, has sweet F**k all to do with that receiver itself, its geometry or how it was made.

The receiver itself is very close to GI spec, and forged properly. If you are incapable of finding this out for yourself or you simply don't want to hear it from me or anyone else (for the third time) then PM Different (Lee Emerson) and ask him:"Is the Chinese M14 receiver properly forged and is its geometry close to USGI specs?".

I know you love SAI, its merican and anything the chinese made sucks because they are stupid and can only make forks and spoons. So I will ask you once again: A, dont bother commenting on things you have no knowledge of, or B, find out about this stuff yourself so you can make factual posts.
 
No, not a chance! In fact, I won't even buy another one, if it went up by only $200. To me, they are not worth that much, if they come the way mine came like. If they go up just a few hundreds shy of a Springfield, I'd go Springfield or a slow build LRB instead.
 
Okay, everyone relax and keep things civil. :D Whoops, hey wait..... I'm not yer moderator anymore. :cool:

Anyways, if the price doubled, that would take all the fun factor out of things. For the $400, I recommended you buy two of them. That was then. If the QC is still poopy, then I will start saving my money up for an M1A which I cannot afford while my son is in Chiropractor College at $22K per year (that's just the tuition). I'm hoping he won't stick me in some KRACK House nursing home! :D

At least with the M1A platform, all the sizes, dimensions, specs, measurements are all the same and are put together at a FACTORY and not various high school shop classes. I should know that quality since I teach at one! :rockOn:

Cheers and keep on helping da noooobs here!

Barney
 
I got mine used second hand in new condition for $300 cash years back.

I'll never part with her. It's one hell of an awesome rifle.

I would not pay anything near $750 + for one though. Even the current prices prior to all this heresy and conjecture I find a little high for a rifle that is a crap shoot right out of the box.

I love my Norc M14, still my go to rifle out of all of mine, but it's the bang for the buck factor at the heart of the affection.
 
Hey guys come on lets lighten up here a little.

These are just rifles. Not worth arguing over like this. After all we are all on the same team right? We all shoot M-14 pattern rifles right?

My Norinco is made with Chinese and Canadian part's, I know that, you know that.

Your Springfield is made with Taiwanese and Canadian part's, I know that now:D, and you know that.


Lets not pretend one is from Mars and the other one is from Venus anymore.

We are all one in the force and our M1A journey's all start on the Pacific Rim,...the Ring of fire.

All we need now is for SAM to start making M1A's in the BillaBeans and we will have the Big Three of M-1A's just like GM, Ford, and Chrysler,......... or Roosevelt, Churchill and Stalin,....or Hitler, Mussolini, and Tojo,....or Larry, Moe and Curly,.......you're picking up what I'm laying down here right??..............
 
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