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anchor3593 said:
I wonder who decided to teach Canadian shooters that the term "clip" is improper.
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It's not improper if you are referring to a stripper clip or en bloc clip, it's improper when used as a term for a detachable box magazine, though.


It just makes us look stupid and immature - like a kid coming home from school and telling his Dad that it isn't a "tree" - it is a "vegetation.
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When I hear guys talk abotu magazines as "clips" it sure does make them look stupid. And that they learned terms from TV.:)

It was a clip before we were born and will be a clip after we have stopped trying to re-educate everyone and gone to our grave.

The term "magazine" is more of a generality - could be a tube or a box or even a larger storage place for arms or ammo or powder.

The term "clip" is more specific - for instance my rifle has a "tubular magazine" or a "clip magazine."
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No, you are wrong. A clip isn't the same as a detachable magazine. Go ask abotu "clips" in the Milsurp forum:p

For examples of usage of these terms, read the little descriptions of each firearm in your SIR catalogue. The manufacturers ( who I hope have some knowledge of terms and have been talking guns for some time now) write the little descriptions for the catalogues.
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The fact that the gun companies advertising people don't know the difference is not a good reason to remain ignorant.
 
I agree with certin posts here, I think too many people know too much about guns for some kid making 10 bucks an hour behind a counter to compete with.
 
Sounds liek the same thing as the Le Barons here in Ottawa. I went out back to the gun counter where there was 3 customers and about 4 salespeople; problem is that only one was working and the others talked about how their job sucked and how they were looking for other work. I spent 15 minutes waiting to find out they did not have a 10/22 magazine when it could have taken 2 mintues.
 
anchor3593 said:
I wonder who decided to teach Canadian shooters that the term "clip" is improper. It just makes us look stupid and immature - like a kid coming home from school and telling his Dad that it isn't a "tree" - it is a "vegetation."

It was a clip before we were born and will be a clip after we have stopped trying to re-educate everyone and gone to our grave.

The term "magazine" is more of a generality - could be a tube or a box or even a larger storage place for arms or ammo or powder.

The term "clip" is more specific - for instance my rifle has a "tubular magazine" or a "clip magazine."

For examples of usage of these terms, read the little descriptions of each firearm in your SIR catalogue. The manufacturers ( who I hope have some knowledge of terms and have been talking guns for some time now) write the little descriptions for the catalogues.
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SIR/ Cabela's 2008 Winter uses these terms :

10 round clip
10 shot clip
10 round detachable magazine
14 shot tubular magazine
10 shot clip magazine
10 shot flush mounting clip
tubular magazine
5 shot detachable clip
5 shot detachable clip
5 shot detachable magazine
4 shot flush fitting clip
4 shot and 7 shot clips
4 shot and 7 shot clips
two clips 4 shot and 7 shot included
hinged floor plate magazine
mag capacity 5
detachable magazine
magazine capacity 5
4 round drop out magazine
detachable clip
Internal box top feed magazine
internal magazine
detachable magazine
4-shot tubular magazine

Scanning down those, one thing that I notice is the lack of the word "box," except in the description of an " Internal box top feed magazine."

I also notice that the term "clip" is used much more on rimfires - though not exclusively.

When we pay a thousand bucks for something, maybe we want bigger words to use when we show it off?

I'll now proceed to my woodlot with my Husqvarna Model 272 XP to re-engineer some vegetation for the incendiary devise.

Naawww - I'm gonna go chop some wood. I might take a rifle with a clip of Noslers too.
 
Magazines contain ammunition, whether detachable or not. Clips hold ammunition together for insertion into a magazine. The fact that SIR and Savage have it screwed up shouldn't set an example. Its like calling all snowmobiles, Ski-Do's. Incorrect common usage can be quite entrenched, but that doesn't make it right.
 
powder burner said:
I promptly left and shook my head. Does this sort of thing happen all day at your local wholesale sports?
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It happen often enough! Seems that they do not have enough experienced help. If your uncle owned a gun once and you got a pulse your hired. You seem to be an expert and got a lot of time on your hands? Why don't you give it a try?
 
Mad_Mikee said:
If they were on the shelf, I wouldnt have to take a number, wait in line and then wait for someone to try to find them. I could go to the shelf, look, see they arent there, then leave.
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WSS in Calgary tried that once. Seems that most of their customers did not know what they want like you do and there was a lot of mixin and matchin and leaving out of box going on which generated complaints from other experts.
 
anchor3593 said:
SIR/ Cabela's 2008 Winter uses these terms :

10 round clip
10 shot clip
10 round detachable magazine
14 shot tubular magazine
10 shot clip magazine
10 shot flush mounting clip
tubular magazine
5 shot detachable clip
5 shot detachable clip
5 shot detachable magazine
4 shot flush fitting clip
4 shot and 7 shot clips
4 shot and 7 shot clips
two clips 4 shot and 7 shot included
hinged floor plate magazine
mag capacity 5
detachable magazine
magazine capacity 5
4 round drop out magazine
detachable clip
Internal box top feed magazine
internal magazine
detachable magazine
4-shot tubular magazine

Scanning down those, one thing that I notice is the lack of the word "box," except in the description of an " Internal box top feed magazine."
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Most detachable magazines for rifles are of the "box" variety.

I also notice that the term "clip" is used much more on rimfires - though not exclusively.
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So they really are using a bunch of different terms to describe the same thing...:confused:

I'm surprised that anyone actually uses a catalogue for firearm reference purposes (other than price and items stocked):eek:

When we pay a thousand bucks for something, maybe we want bigger words to use when we show it off?
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Not really. "Mag" is an acceptable abbreviation of "magazine." Clip has 4 letters, mag has 3. So clip is the bigger word.:wave:
 
Clip is the humorous choice when you are hunting with women, and harassing them about losing there clip, or when there husband tells them he cant find there clip and you erupt in laughter. Other than that, it is a mag to me most of the time.
 
The wait times are bizarre. The reacharounders with no money and tight shorts window browsing need a swift boot. There is one older guy in stoon and one in edmonton that seem to know something. This spring the young guys in stoon were telling me that a .375 ruger didnt exist
 
anchor3593 said:
I wonder who decided to teach Canadian shooters that the term "clip" is improper. It just makes us look stupid and immature - like a kid coming home from school and telling his Dad that it isn't a "tree" - it is a "vegetation."

It was a clip before we were born and will be a clip after we have stopped trying to re-educate everyone and gone to our grave.

The term "magazine" is more of a generality - could be a tube or a box or even a larger storage place for arms or ammo or powder.

The term "clip" is more specific - for instance my rifle has a "tubular magazine" or a "clip magazine."

For examples of usage of these terms, read the little descriptions of each firearm in your SIR catalogue. The manufacturers ( who I hope have some knowledge of terms and have been talking guns for some time now) write the little descriptions for the catalogues.
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anchor3593 said:
SIR/ Cabela's 2008 Winter uses these terms :
10 round clip
10 shot clip
10 round detachable magazine
14 shot tubular magazine
10 shot clip magazine
10 shot flush mounting clip
tubular magazine
5 shot detachable clip
5 shot detachable clip
5 shot detachable magazine
4 shot flush fitting clip
4 shot and 7 shot clips
4 shot and 7 shot clips
two clips 4 shot and 7 shot included
hinged floor plate magazine
mag capacity 5
detachable magazine
magazine capacity 5
4 round drop out magazine
detachable clip
Internal box top feed magazine
internal magazine
detachable magazine
4-shot tubular magazine

Scanning down those, one thing that I notice is the lack of the word "box," except in the description of an " Internal box top feed magazine."

I also notice that the term "clip" is used much more on rimfires - though not exclusively.

When we pay a thousand bucks for something, maybe we want bigger words to use when we show it off?

I'll now proceed to my woodlot with my Husqvarna Model 272 XP to re-engineer some vegetation for the incendiary devise.

Naawww - I'm gonna go chop some wood. I might take a rifle with a clip of Noslers too.
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I wonder what my Father would have done if I , as a snotty nosed little kid , had been so arrogant as to stop pitching firewood long enough to tell him that he was using the wrong term for something.

After long consideration, I think that he may not have replied.
 
anchor3593 said:
I wonder what my Father would have done if I , as a snotty nosed little kid , had been so arrogant as to stop pitching firewood long enough to tell him that he was using the wrong term for something.

After long consideration, I think that he may not have replied.
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Some people think they don't need to learn anything new, that is fine.

Although it would be better for all if those people would keep their ignorance to themselves, and not attempt to chastise a person for using correct terminology.
 
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