Xcr v. Mr1

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Newbie to rifles and guns in general. After getting comfortable with my Jericho 9mm, I would like to buy a nonrestricted black rifle.. And so far have narrowed my choices to the Benneli Mr1 and the Xcr.

Advice of those in the know would be greatly appreciated (and I'm not quite ready to spend the $ on a Swissarms.)
 
Never owned either but I've shot both a couple of times and really like each of them.
The XCR is a great ar look alike nr black rifle so if you really want the tacticool look than go that direction (i think there good guns too but i'm sure others will be along shortly to object).
The Benelli is a good solid gun but it lacks the AR look and i've heard its tough to get optics on it (only shot ones with irons so far) but i'd buy one for a coyote gun if I had the cash.

The XCR would be my first choice though unless I had the cash in which case sh*t can both of them and get the dang swiss arms cause those guns are the cats meow.
 
If the MR1 had a better stock (i.e. one that you had a hope in hell of having proper cheek weld) instead of the weird shotgun-style stock it would be a great improvement. I've never fired either but if I had to pick one of those two sight unseen I'd buy the XCR hands down just for its better optic mounting with the FAST stock. Have you thought about an SL8?
 
I own two XCR-L rifles and luv the platform, conversion kits etc... I have NOT tried the Benneli Mr1 but I have read its very accurate. Looks like a great rifle. If the Marines use it must be decent! I just came back from a service rilfe match and I could hit center within 6-8" group at 500m during the 5rd zeroing allowed with my XCR-L 5.56mm before the 10rd deliberate started. The the wind kicked in and all 10 shots landed 1-1.5 feet to the right...:(

Benneli Mr1
http://youtu.be/SqzL-k8jpYQ

The XCR-L is nice as well and great ergonomics...Yes I am of a biased opinion :)

http://youtu.be/-fTWTRD55ts

http://youtu.be/x7iVKEGvwDQ

Water test:
http://youtu.be/RFouHg_ZnNU

The best advice before making a decision is try to test fire both of them at your local range or gun club and chose what best works for you in the end. Most of these non-restricted black rifles are very solid and have advantages and disadvantages. If your not sure yet what style of shooting you will be doing then take a bit more time at the range. I started out with a MINI-14 and prgressed from there.

I would love an AR but being Restricted I rather go with the above.

Good Luck in your decision!
 
I also have not shot the Benneli Mr1 but have heard good things ( for me they just look weird).

I have never been able to change mags faster with any other rifle than my xcr allows- and I have only had it out once. The ergo's are great and its a very evil looking rifle for a non-res that is reasonably accurate as well. I did find it to be a tad forward heavy when I first started playing with it but after shooting it I have become used to it.
 
Tavor is a better rifle than the two of those combined...

And here lies the problem of spending the extra thousand dollars. He will get there eventually. If you really want to be cool, own them all.

If you want a rifle you can dress up and look tacticool with, buy the XCR. It fits alot of the Magpul goodies, it shoots straight and if you buy the nonrestricted model, you can use it for hunting. The other great thing is you can get it in pink! Lol! Oh, plus other great colors too. Did I mention the fact you can change calibers too? I love mine. I just missed out on the pink one. Damn!
 
that was funny.....two years ago.

Welcome to the internet where everyone can have the same original idea.

As to the original question. I own a older model XCR rifle and a Micro Pistol,I shoot 7.62 surplus exclusively never had a part come flying off or used a drop of Loctite. No problem hitting clay out to 50 with just iron sights.
 
I have owned both...
The ergos, and ability of the XCR to be altered to fit the owner can't be beat.
The Benelli, if it fits you, will deliver more inherent accuracy.
If I was buying it to hunt 'yotes and the like, the Benelli is the clear choice.
If not, the XCR is easier to love......
Just my $0.02.....
 
I also have not shot the Benneli Mr1 but have heard good things ( for me they just look weird).

I have never been able to change mags faster with any other rifle than my xcr allows- and I have only had it out once. The ergo's are great and its a very evil looking rifle for a non-res that is reasonably accurate as well. I did find it to be a tad forward heavy when I first started playing with it but after shooting it I have become used to it.

Adding the CTR stock and ELACN balanced it out very nicely I found!

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I have an XCR-L only black rifle that has ever interested me.

I legally use 10 round 223 LAR pistol mags when I have my 223 upper installed and 10 round 7.62X39 RA pistol mags when I have my 6.8SPC upper installed.

I hunt deer with my 6.8....

I have held a MR1 nothing about this rifle did anything for me.
 
First-off, I actually do like the XCR; I think it's one hell of a rifle, and I have a personal affinity for the Robinson Arms b/c the System 63 is - in my opinion - one of the bolder and cooler designs ever offered.

But I still like to joke around, all the same !

Regarding the MR-1, it's a bit of a weird situation :redface: : the accuracy is there right from the "stock" rifle, but the cheek-weld ain't. That's never really bothered me b/c I comfortably chin-weld almost instinctively, but I do understand where others are coming from on that point !

The key to understanding the rifle is to realize that, first and foremeost, it's really a giant middle-finger to civilian firearm laws. While there's a whole lot of talk about the ARGO system and the shotgun-stock (give me a minute to get to that), the real thought process seems to have been "how can we get a .223/5.56 rifle into every one of the American states?" - and, to their credit, Benelli succeeded. It's California-good-to-go, as well as Canada-good-to-go as a non-restricted, and will fly under just about every "we hate the .223/5.56" rule. Now, that accomplished, the rest is kind of odd...

Having made the MR-1 completely (legally) accessible to everyone, Benelli effectively decided to configure it as a "plinker". Now, try not to get wrapped-up in connotation with that term: the rifle can acquit itself very well in the accuracy dept. ! But the thing is that every configuration aspect of the rifle seems to shout "plinker", from the way the MR-1 "guides" you to its iron sights, to the overengineered recoil-reduction setup of the buttstock, to the ARGO system to minimize cleaning, to the STANAG magazine well and the "un-AR" fire controls and mag-release. You can reliably "run" the 'piston-powered' rifle for a pretty long time without cleaning it, but scoping and "AR-drill" considerations seem to have been relegated to secondary or even tertiary importance.

And now here's the further oddity: with its MSRP, the MR-1 is actually too expensive to be "just" an plinker. It's a good, solid, accurate & reliable iron-sight rifle, but for its MSRP it ought to be more "scope-friendly" (the fire-controls are what they are, not a huge deal, IMHO). So it comes-off as a bit of a Rolls-Royce .223/5.56, a compromise of a rifle at a price a bit too high for its functionality.

For all that (and apologies to anyone who bothered to sift through it all ! ), I really do like the MR-1. The iron-sights came zeroed from the factory, and forced me to use extra-high see-though rings (albeit of the NcStar variey ! ) that afford me a reliable and very pleasant iron-sighted experiance (which was what that stock was really designed for), with the option of just "lifting my head" to use the scope for longer/more precise shots. And one thing you will not have to worry about is the MR-1 falling apart (sorry, sorry, it's not a Loctite comment, this time it's a statement to contrast against some detractors of the Kel-Tec SU-16 ! ). A well-built, stable and accurate, STANAG-magazine non-restricted platform (did I mention how little it needs to be cleaned ? :D ), for Canadians the MR-1 is a pretty good "black" rifle, even at its MSRP (though buying one used will definitely save you some coin).

Just had to add something here: the trigger is a wonderful aspect of the MR-1.....:cool:.....it's got to be handled to be believed (and appreciated).

Once you understand what the MR-1 was actually designed to do, and then consider what it is capable of doing, I think many will actually come to love this firearm. So, like others have said, "try before you buy" !

How original ;)

Awwww....:p....it's like a rite of passage :wave: , to be able to make the first Loctite comment in an XCR thread !....:D

Tell you what :yingyang: , if it irks people that much I'll give them a "free pass" to $hit all-over my AR-180B's breakable lower..... TWK
 
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Fondled both at Epps and ended up leaving with an XCR two years ago. Never looked back. Not saying the Mr-1 is bad, its agreat rifle, just like the XCR better for my taste and application.
 
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