You Don't Own A Type 81 - You Can't Speak For Us

the only thing I found interesting with wood stock is every time you shoot, there is an interesting recoil spring sound transmitted via stock to the cheek bone and all the way to the ear via bone transmission... never had this with any other rifles
 
Well ur a big guy..... And it's a puny buttstock haha, if I had a fixed, I'd totally be powering up the band saw and carving out a more practical sized buttstock for the gun.
 
wiki is definitely a veritable source ;)
only between 1933 and 1945 such a great representative of Westernizers, as Nazzi Germans, killed 30-40 mln civilians.
And don't tell me that Coalition finally started some sort of meaningful resistance in 1944 in European theater and kicked Adolf out, 'coz up to 1941 Ford and other American companies had no problems with Germany at all. By the way, communist regimes were at war with each other-no problems either (China vs Vietnam or China vs USSR etc)
Neither most Westerners had problems with German Olympic Games, by the way here is the symbol of those games, so much alike of what 2018 Olympic Games look like-different symbols, same idea:
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another great example of Westernizers in so called USA, specifically executed 5-10 mln aboriginal people in what is called US now. I am not talking about Great Spanish, French, Portuguese westernizers of America, but they were a bit milder, for sure.
In conclusion, there is a big similarity between some Communism regimes and Western "democracies".

Only self organization of wise people will save this stupid World.. aka anarchy will serve this role. And it is BS when people say anarchy will only lead to destraction... and that 80% of civilians are stupid cows from a herd; 'coz just remove zombo-TV from the picture and u'll see the changes.
unfortunately there are people from above posters, living their greenhouse bubble American dream, who are easily misled/ zombified via i-net. For them, maybe i-net doesn't serve its role, but it shouldn't be removed/ prohibited; 'coz let the evolution do its role: they will get wiser or age demented, whichever comes first


but enough for topic deviation, let's talk about T81 and yes, I have one and I like it.. Chinese mil. manufacturing is not as nice as in USSR, but, still better than stupid over-advertised/ inflated AR-15 (though P.R.C. manufactures some for fun)

It's a better source the Alex Jones lol.
Anyway, refute it with something better then your own parroting of his BS.
STALIN alone killed 20-25 million of his own people. Google is your friend.
Mao killed somewhere around 50 million of his own people. Google is your friend.
Pol Pot killed around 3 million of his own people. Google it.
See the trend? Communist regimes have a tendency to indiscriminately murder their own citizens by the millions.
WW2 was a WAR btw...not a system of GOV murdering it's own people.

Yeah...there is no helping this one gets it's #### together.
 
only between 1933 and 1945 such a great representative of Westernizers, as Nazzi Germans, killed 30-40 mln civilians.

Only 1 'Z' in the term 'Nazi' there brainchild.

Im sure you would be much happier living in Venezuela or North Korea..... make it happen.
 
Yes folks!
I bought a USED Type 81....Booooo Scary......Secondary Market, Fixed Stock.
Looks and runs great!

The butt stock ( just the wood ) has a cast off to the right similar to higher end shotguns and rifles.....it is not squared up in the pocket....perhaps it was an "option"??...I didn't check the box for an original order....

I will fix that at some point but no other real issues, and "wood fit" complaints on a Sino/Soviet variant is like saying there is too much plastic in the Dodge Caravan!

I am actually pretty impressed.

My only beef is the gauge thickness of the top cover....pretty flimsy.

My carrier spring is a tight fit in to the slot at the back of the receiver and the old standby of smacking the top cover at the back hard with the heel of your hand doesn't seem as good an idea with these as this area is quite snug compared to what our NEW Nato allies used to produce.....sigh......the old Factory "11" days!!

Thanks to the Lads who have been paving a road regarding the modifications to existing variant mags so they will work well in the 81's!!

I very much appreciate the leg work on these "other options" available to us.....Us??.......Can I say "us" now???

Cheers Paul
 
My 858 stock is off to the right a tad...not quite as much as my type 81, but I would say and 1/8" or so, and my type 81 is out by about a 1/4"....I don't notice when I'm shooting and I can't tell unless I really look at it...meh
 
Yes folks!
I bought a USED Type 81....Booooo Scary......Secondary Market, Fixed Stock.
Looks and runs great!

The butt stock ( just the wood ) has a cast off to the right similar to higher end shotguns and rifles.....it is not squared up in the pocket....perhaps it was an "option"??...I didn't check the box for an original order....

I will fix that at some point but no other real issues, and "wood fit" complaints on a Sino/Soviet variant is like saying there is too much plastic in the Dodge Caravan!

I am actually pretty impressed.

My only beef is the gauge thickness of the top cover....pretty flimsy.

My carrier spring is a tight fit in to the slot at the back of the receiver and the old standby of smacking the top cover at the back hard with the heel of your hand doesn't seem as good an idea with these as this area is quite snug compared to what our NEW Nato allies used to produce.....sigh......the old Factory "11" days!!

Thanks to the Lads who have been paving a road regarding the modifications to existing variant mags so they will work well in the 81's!!

I very much appreciate the leg work on these "other options" available to us.....Us??.......Can I say "us" now???

Cheers Paul

Did you pay less, about the same, or more than original purchasers?
 
It's a better source the Alex Jones lol.
Anyway, refute it with something better then your own parroting of his BS.
STALIN alone killed 20-25 million of his own people. Google is your friend.
Mao killed somewhere around 50 million of his own people. Google is your friend.
Pol Pot killed around 3 million of his own people. Google it.
See the trend? Communist regimes have a tendency to indiscriminately murder their own citizens by the millions.
WW2 was a WAR btw...not a system of GOV murdering it's own people.

Yeah...there is no helping this one gets it's #### together.

millions "killed" by Stalin and Mao is by enlarge criminal falsification not more not less... losses are extremely exaggerated-google is your friend. Tell me how many millions Putin killed, so I lough tonight.
Adolf, a very classic example of a "westernizer", killed close to 15 mln his own citizens-communists, Jews, Gypsies, Polish-google is your friend.
This discussion is getting useless, it is like showing Rembrandt paintings in the chicken house, I will add you to my ignore list as well-read more and move your eyes from rear to the front of your head.
 
millions "killed" by Stalin and Mao is by enlarge criminal falsification not more not less... losses are extremely exaggerated-google is your friend. Tell me how many millions Putin killed, so I lough tonight.
Adolf, a very classic example of a "westernizer", killed close to 15 mln his own citizens-communists, Jews, Gypsies, Polish-google is your friend.
This discussion is getting useless, it is like showing Rembrandt paintings in the chicken house, I will add you to my ignore list as well-read more and move your eyes from rear to the front of your head.

Wow you just lost all credibility if you think Stalin and Mao were not responsible for the deaths of millions.

Stalin during peacetime:

Gulag & purges - about 6M
1932/33 famine in Ukraine from forced collectivization - 6M to 12M
1946/47 famine in Ukraine - 1 to 1.5M.

Nevermind the Kulak deportation or the katyn massacre. There's a whole wikipedia page just on Stalin's peacetime death toll of his own people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_deaths_in_the_Soviet_Union_under_Joseph_Stalin

Which US president was it again that rounded up political dissidents and either sent them to forced labour camps of had the FBI shoot them in the head? Oh right... that didn;t happen in any western democracies.

Wow... just wow.

Even Kruschev denouned Stalin shortly after his death.

February 25, 1956
Khrushchev Denounces Stalin in Speech to Soviet Communists

For thirty years, Joseph Stalin had ruled the Soviet Union unchallenged. Less than three years after his death, new Soviet premier Nikita Khrushchev shocked the Twentieth Communist Party Congress with a long, angry speech that denounced Stalin.

Khrushchev framed his attack as a critique of the dead leader for promoting the “cult of personality,” which, he said, is alien to Marxism-Leninism. He began dismantling Stalin’s claims to greatness by pointing out that Soviet founder Vladimir Lenin had written in his will that Stalin should be removed from his position as secretary general of the Communist Party. Khrushchev revealed Lenin’s trenchant criticisms of Stalin, which Stalin had managed to suppress.

Khrushchev then denounced Stalin for “despotism.” He accused Stalin of “repression and physical annihilation, not only against actual enemies, but also against individuals who had not committed any crimes against the party and the Soviet Government.” Khrushchev pointed out that in the late 1930s, 98 of the 139 members of the Communist Party’s Central Committee were arrested and shot. Furthermore, he said, more than half of the Seventeenth Party Congress was arrested on trumped-up charges of counterrevolutionary actions.

Next, Khrushchev labeled the image of Stalin as the savior of the Soviet Union during World War II as a lie. Rather, he said, Stalin endangered the Soviet state by ignoring warnings about Adolf Hitler’s implacable hatred of communism, doing nothing to prepare his nation’s defenses, and initially dismissing the reality of Germany’s invasion of Soviet territory.

Khrushchev warned the delegates that they needed to tightly control these revelations. “You understand, comrades, that we could not spread this information to the people at once,” he said. While a “de-Stalinization” campaign began, the exact reasons were never made clear to the Soviet people. The text of Khrushchev’s speech — though known outside the Soviet Union within a month — was never published in the Soviet Union until 1988.

https://blog.oup.com/2012/02/khrushchev-denounces-stalin-speech-soviet-communists/

But sure, Kruschev was probably a capitalist puppet American lapdog cracking unfairly on the sunny ways of Joseph Stalin. [INSERT EYE ROLL EMOTICON HERE]
 
Hitler.... the socialist "westernizer".
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Me thinks someone needs to google NSDAP.

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Agreed. Fascism is NOTHING like western democracy. Fascism is a "cult of the leader" despotic form of government that, at its core, is actually far more socialist and centrally planned than any free market capitalist society.

The Nazi movement had more in common with Stalin's brand of communism than it did with republican or westminster democracy.
 
Agreed. Fascism is NOTHING like western democracy. Fascism is a "cult of the leader" despotic form of government that, at its core, is actually far more socialist and centrally planned than any free market capitalist society.

The Nazi movement had more in common with Stalin's brand of communism than it did with republican or westminster democracy.

Stalin created famine specifically to kill people? Are you joking?
By the way, number of deaths in "Holodomor" is exaggerated, also, most people died in Kazakhstan and Russia and not Ukraine; Ukraine is trying to privatize this idea and use it for political reasons, like some people try to think about Holocaust as genocide of Jewish only and not other people specifically like Polish and Gypsies.
Finally, comparable numbers died/ killed themselves in depression years in USA.
By the way, let me tell you about Holodomor-STalin had an agreement for plant/ fabric machines to be bought from West for Gold, then West abruptly changed its mind and accepted grain only, no money, no gold or whatever... so who indirectly created Holodomr is a good question.

I lost my credibility-I don't care-your resources are largely falsified, including TV, google and whatever-for sure winners of cold war change/ write history the way they want. Next you will say communism=Nazism and USSR + Russia didn't win the war, but US won-what a joke.
So stop blah blah and let's talk about type 81
 
millions "killed" by Stalin and Mao is by enlarge criminal falsification not more not less... losses are extremely exaggerated-google is your friend. Tell me how many millions Putin killed, so I lough tonight.
Adolf, a very classic example of a "westernizer", killed close to 15 mln his own citizens-communists, Jews, Gypsies, Polish-google is your friend.
This discussion is getting useless, it is like showing Rembrandt paintings in the chicken house, I will add you to my ignore list as well-read more and move your eyes from rear to the front of your head.

As soon as you praise Alex Jones and Stalin, you not only lost the argument, you have lost your mind.
 
Ya, so if you have an opinion on the T81 but don't own one... you need to understand what happened in communist countries in the past. You're also wrong and your sources invalid whether you have an opinion or not. Good thread guys.
 
Ya, so if you have an opinion on the T81 but don't own one... you need to understand what happened in communist countries in the past. You're also wrong and your sources invalid whether you have an opinion or not. Good thread guys.

nice summary :)
we are all molecules in the Swiss cheese
 
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