Your 5 rarest milsurps

I collect Canadian-issue military firearms, concentrating on the period from 1855 (when the pre-Confederation Province of Canada was first required to take primary responsibility for its own defence) through to the end of world War II .... and I like to shoot them, also.

I'd say that my 5 "rarest" pieces, in order of age, are:


1. .36 caliber London Colt Model 1851 "Navy" percussion revolver with Upper Canada ownership/issue markings, one of about 800 acquired by the (pre-Confederation) Province of Canada in 1855-56 -

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(I haven't shot this one (.... yet .....) because I have a reproduction London Navy for that ..... the lower one in the photo above.)



2. .50-60 rimfire Canadian-contract Peabody rifle, bearing "CM" (Canada Militia) property mark; one of several types of American-made breechloaders acquired in haste in 1866-67 (again, pre-Confederation) in response to the Fenian Raids emergency -

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(I have a centerfire-conversion breechblock for shooting this old gal with shortened .50-70 brass, preserving the original rimfire block and striker. Original .577 Snider-Enfield cartridge included in photo for comparison.)



3. 1873-dated Mark I .577/.450 Martini-Henry rifle, one of 2,100 acquired by Canada in early 1874, prior to official approval of the final pattern of the Mark I M-H rifle. These Canadian-purchase rifles escaped a British War Department directive that any early-pattern Mark I rifles already issued were to be returned for "upgrading" to the final approved pattern. Accordingly, they retain certain distinct features, including a bronze breech-block pivot pin rather than the final pattern of pivot pin (which was steel) -

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4. .45 caliber Model 1878 Colt Double Action revolver, produced in 1883 - one of 1,001 revolvers of this model hastily acquired by the Canadian Department of Militia & Defence in early 1885 for use in the North West Rebellion of that year. (Yes, they were nickel-plated!)

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At least some of these revolvers went to South Africa in 1899 for service with the first Canadian contingent sent for the Boer War. Below - Buglers of the 2nd Battalion, Royal Canadian Regiment, in South Africa -

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Shown here- with cartridges - in a "comparison shot" with the .476 Enfield revolver which is #5 on my list ......
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5. 1884-dated .476 Enfield revolver Mark II, documented as one of approximately 1,080 such revolvers acquired by the North West Mounted Police starting in 1882; this model was in primary service with the NWMP until 1905 -

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HONOURABLE MENTION - 1914-production .45ACP Colt Government Model pistol, one of 5,000 purchased that year for the Canadian Expeditionary Force -

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OK here’s a couple of mine for your consideration:

No4Mk1(T)

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M1D
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Mk.V (No.1Mk.V)

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No.7Mk1 .22RF (Not the Cno7)
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Hungarian Mosin Nagant M52 Sniper

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N9Mk1 22 RF trainer

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No.8Mk1 22 RF

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Long Guns
1. BD42 SSD copy of the FG42 (Less than 20 in North America)
1a. M78 Finnish Valmet
2. CE SSR K98 Sniper
3. AR ZF41 K98 Sniper
4. BCD LSR K98 Sniper
5. M1D Sniper
6. I'll put my SVT 1942 Sniper ahead of my SVT 1941 sniper as they made fewer snipers in a 1942.

Handguns/Restricted
1. Broomhandle Slabsided Italian Contract (7000 produced) with shoulder stock

I guess any on my SSD restricted as there are less than 1000 of each in North America.
 
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ah low production rifles that I own

well lets see

there is the Finn M24 civil Guard rifle SIG stepped barrel, that would be the rarest one I have only about 2000 ever made I think.

then next up would be the EAL, civi pattern again several thousand made but easier to find as they were produced here and didn't have to survive a series of wars.

after that I guess I would have to put up my DCRA converted Savage 'club rifle'.


and finally the 1916 and 1918 SSA enfields, they were also low production in the first and last year. Nothing really remarkable about those rifles just that the factroy didn't make many.

so that would be my 5
 
I think the rarest milsurp in my collection is a Czech Vz52/57 sniper complete with first gen IR sight (the photo is not mine, but shows essentially the same rifle):

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I'm guessing that's the one I missed here a while back?

Does anyone know when these were produced? That rail and mount system looks a lot like the SVD Dragunov. Does it predate the Dragunov? If it does, maybe this is where the concept came from.
 
My collecting passion is a bit mixed.

1937 and 1938 dated Mauser S/42 Lugers, both with two matching magazines.

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Model 1863 Sharps carbine converted to 50-70 center fire after 1867.
It is serial numbered in the U.S. Civil War period.

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Model 1860 Colt Army and Model 1858 Remington Army Revolvers.

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Erma assembled MP44.

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DWM manufactured Artillery Luger, 1917 dated, unit marked, with matching magazine.

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Early M1A1 Inland carbine 12-42 barrel dated. Sn. 123829.
The "First Contract" of M1A1 carbines started to be shipped in October 1942, this carbine is barrel dated December 1942.

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David
 
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What an incredible collection you have.
I collect Canadian-issue military firearms, concentrating on the period from 1855 (when the pre-Confederation Province of Canada was first required to take primary responsibility for its own defence) through to the end of world War II .... and I like to shoot them, also.

I'd say that my 5 "rarest" pieces, in order of age, are:


1. .36 caliber London Colt Model 1851 "Navy" percussion revolver with Upper Canada ownership/issue markings, one of about 800 acquired by the (pre-Confederation) Province of Canada in 1855-56 -

albion_ubertirepro001a_sm.jpg


UpperCanadaNavy009med.jpg


UpperCanadaNavy025med.jpg

(I haven't shot this one (.... yet .....) because I have a reproduction London Navy for that ..... the lower one in the photo above.)



2. .50-60 rimfire Canadian-contract Peabody rifle, bearing "CM" (Canada Militia) property mark; one of several types of American-made breechloaders acquired in haste in 1866-67 (again, pre-Confederation) in response to the Fenian Raids emergency -

PeabodyRifle.jpg


pea4.jpg


Peabody_firstloads_lowres.jpg


(I have a centerfire-conversion breechblock for shooting this old gal with shortened .50-70 brass, preserving the original rimfire block and striker. Original .577 Snider-Enfield cartridge included in photo for comparison.)



3. 1873-dated Mark I .577/.450 Martini-Henry rifle, one of 2,100 acquired by Canada in early 1874, prior to official approval of the final pattern of the Mark I M-H rifle. These Canadian-purchase rifles escaped a British War Department directive that any early-pattern Mark I rifles already issued were to be returned for "upgrading" to the final approved pattern. Accordingly, they retain certain distinct features, including a bronze breech-block pivot pin rather than the final pattern of pivot pin (which was steel) -

MkI_01a.jpg


MarkIreceiver.jpg


MkI_03.jpg




4. .45 caliber Model 1878 Colt Double Action revolver, produced in 1883 - one of 1,001 revolvers of this model hastily acquired by the Canadian Department of Militia & Defence in early 1885 for use in the North West Rebellion of that year. (Yes, they were nickel-plated!)

78_qor_1.jpg


At least some of these revolvers went to South Africa in 1899 for service with the first Canadian contingent sent for the Boer War. Below - Buglers of the 2nd Battalion, Royal Canadian Regiment, in South Africa -

2RCR_buglers4.jpg


Shown here- with cartridges - in a "comparison shot" with the .476 Enfield revolver which is #5 on my list ......
colt1878-webleymkii-3.jpg




5. 1884-dated .476 Enfield revolver Mark II, documented as one of approximately 1,080 such revolvers acquired by the North West Mounted Police starting in 1882; this model was in primary service with the NWMP until 1905 -

476_02a.jpg


476_06b.jpg


476mkng4.jpg




HONOURABLE MENTION - 1914-production .45ACP Colt Government Model pistol, one of 5,000 purchased that year for the Canadian Expeditionary Force -

colt02_lge.jpg
 
What an incredible collection you have.

And Grant graces us with only one runner up :p. The London Colt is truly Amazing! My heart aches every time I see that mkI M-H, but I have to admit, it belongs in Grant's truly museum quality collection and not in my little side show.

as for me I will put forward in no particular order:
- LEC mkI* (painstakingly restored by Louthepou)
- Martini Metford Calvary Carbine MK1
- C/l\ Sht LE mkIII* with LB marked barrel (awaiting restoration)
- 1943 No4 Mk1* LB converted from MK1
- Cno7 c/w transit case and accessories
- and one runner up the Inglis Hi-power
- and because I'm not sure it counts as a milsurp 1893/1894 transitional fluted Webley WG Army with 97%+ finish (but some a55 had to shave the cyl)
 
I am ashamed of my collection after seeing this thread

No need to feel that way... some have been collecting for years..... Everyone has to start somewhere and not all of us can afford premo stuff off the bat.

Japanese type 26 pistol... early 1900's.... I was told that there was only about 30 in the country???

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Russian PSM pistol... circa 1970's... again I was told that there may only be a dozen or so in the country.

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Not sure how rare... a PIAT :D

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A nice 1911 RAF Colt in .455 eley

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Cutaway Bren....

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I am ashamed of my collection after seeing this thread

That's why I started the thread...to create huge levels of milsurp envy :D:D

So now that the registry is gone, get out there and buy, trade, sell until you feel worthy to post your collection !!!!!!
 
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