Your 5 rarest milsurps
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drm3n: Thanks for stopping by once again! I've said it before, you have the BEST WWII collection of firearms I have seen in Canada. I am truly envious, and I wish I had 12.6 so I could at least attempt to find some Lugers like those! The paratrooper M1 Carbine is a classic piece, and I remember you also have a nice M1911A1 to go with it also.
JoeN: I'm digging those Mausers, but I know you have some other awesome stuff also!
Grant: Classic Canadian content right there! Impressive. I think the minty Canadian Contract should be more than just "honorable mention"
Thanks to everyone who got pics of some rare stuff residing with Canadian gun nutz. It's nice to see that not all the sweet stuff is in the U.S. and there are some really awesome guns here in Canada. I'll save my post for later when I get a chance to take some pics!
-Steve
JoeN: I'm digging those Mausers, but I know you have some other awesome stuff also!
Grant: Classic Canadian content right there! Impressive. I think the minty Canadian Contract should be more than just "honorable mention"
Thanks to everyone who got pics of some rare stuff residing with Canadian gun nutz. It's nice to see that not all the sweet stuff is in the U.S. and there are some really awesome guns here in Canada. I'll save my post for later when I get a chance to take some pics!
-Steve
Yes, it is pretty special ..... but my choice for the "top five" was made in response to the "rarity" aspect of the original post. Heck, there were no less than 5,000 of the 1914 Canadian Contract Colt Government Model pistols!
(By the way, it has become my habit to refer to this, and similar pistols, in that way ..... rather than calling it a Model 1911 ..... because that was the name for commercial-production pistols in the Colt product lineup, and thus is the term which is carefully applied to them in Colt factory letters. Strictly speaking, "Model 1911" is the U.S. military designation for that model, as produced for the U.S. Government .....)
Some pics of some of my rare stuff:
NWMP-issued Enfield Mk.II, listed in the Klancher book.
Belgian Nagant 1878-86
Canadian-contract Colt 1911 Goverment Model
Star 1920 Modelo Militar
Webley & Scott Mk.1N
British-contract HAFDASA Ballese-Molina
Webley & Scott Model 1910 in .38 ACP (not technically military, but sold mainly to British officers, including Field Marshall Haig)
British-proofed Colt 1905 Military (again, not technically military, but the Brits definitely tested them and if it`s not a test piece it was probably an officer`s sidearm)
Roth-Steyr 1907 marked to 10th Dragoon Regiment in Krakow
RAF-marked Colt 1911 Government in .455 Auto
Finnish-issued CZ-38
NWMP-issued Enfield Mk.II, listed in the Klancher book.
Belgian Nagant 1878-86
Canadian-contract Colt 1911 Goverment Model
Star 1920 Modelo Militar
Webley & Scott Mk.1N
British-contract HAFDASA Ballese-Molina
Webley & Scott Model 1910 in .38 ACP (not technically military, but sold mainly to British officers, including Field Marshall Haig)
British-proofed Colt 1905 Military (again, not technically military, but the Brits definitely tested them and if it`s not a test piece it was probably an officer`s sidearm)
Roth-Steyr 1907 marked to 10th Dragoon Regiment in Krakow
RAF-marked Colt 1911 Government in .455 Auto
Finnish-issued CZ-38
By lawrence9 at 2011-10-23
1x 1913 mfg & 3x 1914 mfg Colt Commercial Models, serial numbers fall within the WW1 Canadian Contract. 3 handgun in the first picture (also seen below) was first carried by a Capt (later Lt Col) 2nd Canadian Engineer Troop(later 2nd Cdn Engineer Btn) at Ypres in 1915.
By lawrence9 at 2011-10-23
Below is a 1943 mfg Colt 1911A1, with Canadian Broad arrow markings, part of the Qty 1,515 purchase during the second world war.
By lawrence9 at 2011-12-16
I haven`t. I`ve got a couple of boxes of Fiocci ammo, but no clip. Turns out they`re not easy to come by and lots of $ when you do!
And now, some long guns.
Winchester 1895 Russian Musket AKA Vintovka Vinchestya Obr.1915G
1st Contract M1A1 carbine
Belgian Mauser M1889-36
US Krag M1898
DMGLM-marked (Mozambique Military Depot) Portugese Mauser-Vergueiro M1904
Greek Mannlicher-Schoenauer Y1903-14
Boer Mauser M1896
Belgian Mauser M1889-16 Carbine
And now, some long guns.
Winchester 1895 Russian Musket AKA Vintovka Vinchestya Obr.1915G
1st Contract M1A1 carbine
Belgian Mauser M1889-36
US Krag M1898
DMGLM-marked (Mozambique Military Depot) Portugese Mauser-Vergueiro M1904
Greek Mannlicher-Schoenauer Y1903-14
Boer Mauser M1896
Belgian Mauser M1889-16 Carbine
maple_leaf_eh
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Green with envy!
FWIW, I examined an East German AK about 20yrs ago and really liked its differences from the run of the mill Soviet and Chinese AKs in the pile.
maple_leaf_eh
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Interesting ones in the locker ... :
- one of 13,000 French MAS 1944 rifles dated 1945 on the barrel;
- a Canadian EAL .303BR;
- a double lug G-43 made in January or February 1945 by Walther that gives me the willies whenever I handle it (plenty of negative kharma coming off that rifle);
- an SA marked Finnish capture SVT40, as close to a combat survivor as I can think of; and
- a two-digit Danish Garand with the original stock and the barrel dated 1954.
Not nearly as sparklingly attractive as some of what others have put up, but mine just the same.
- one of 13,000 French MAS 1944 rifles dated 1945 on the barrel;
- a Canadian EAL .303BR;
- a double lug G-43 made in January or February 1945 by Walther that gives me the willies whenever I handle it (plenty of negative kharma coming off that rifle);
- an SA marked Finnish capture SVT40, as close to a combat survivor as I can think of; and
- a two-digit Danish Garand with the original stock and the barrel dated 1954.
Not nearly as sparklingly attractive as some of what others have put up, but mine just the same.
Ran out of time taking photos, so I'll just start with these ones!
Classic US&S M1911A1, all original and correct. Parts have the typical rough machining marks, and the pistol has the unique "bright blue trigger". These pistols are highly sought after collectors items in the U.S. and almost never found in Canada. Of the few US&S in Canada, most have been re-finished or messed with in some way or another.
Early 1943 Remington Rand M1911A1 with two early "R" pinned base mags. Like the US&S, this early Remington Rand also has a du-lite finish. Compared to the typical 44-45 Rands, this type is pretty rare to find in Canada.
1943 Nambu with matching mag in better than average condition. Recent random buy on the EE! Does anyone have a nice holster like Joe's for sale?
Hopefully I'll get a couple more up soon! My collection still has a long way to go though.
-Steve
Classic US&S M1911A1, all original and correct. Parts have the typical rough machining marks, and the pistol has the unique "bright blue trigger". These pistols are highly sought after collectors items in the U.S. and almost never found in Canada. Of the few US&S in Canada, most have been re-finished or messed with in some way or another.
Early 1943 Remington Rand M1911A1 with two early "R" pinned base mags. Like the US&S, this early Remington Rand also has a du-lite finish. Compared to the typical 44-45 Rands, this type is pretty rare to find in Canada.
1943 Nambu with matching mag in better than average condition. Recent random buy on the EE! Does anyone have a nice holster like Joe's for sale?
Hopefully I'll get a couple more up soon! My collection still has a long way to go though.
-Steve
rifleman1377
CGN Regular
Not sure how rare... a PIAT
Just wondering. Is that PIAT registered? cause its technically not a "firearm"
maple_leaf_eh
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Ran out of time taking photos, so I'll just start with these ones!
Classic US&S M1911A1, all original and correct. Parts have the typical rough machining marks, and the pistol has the unique "bright blue trigger". These pistols are highly sought after collectors items in the U.S. and almost never found in Canada. Of the few US&S in Canada, most have been re-finished or messed with in some way or another. ...
My collection still has a long way to go though.
-Steve
Learn something new every day! What year is this?
I hear you on the refinishing part. Non-collectors tend to think a rough and ugly finish is somehow wrong.
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Union Switch and Signal was a railway company that produced signal equipment, systems, and services. In 1943 they were contracted to make M1911A1 pistols for the U.S. military, and produced about 55,000 pistols. Theses pistols were built mostly by women, and rated very well in the interchangeability tests performed by the military.
-Steve
