25 Yard Freestyle Accuracy.....let's play a game.

Ganderite said:
It shoots well now. before the trigger job I had no love for this gun. It is growing on me.

I find there is quite a variation in grouping with a given bullet and powder, depending on the amount of powder. This gun prefers a heavier charge. I notice a lot of guys pick a load out of the book and don't try a bit more or less powder. They might be surprised.
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I'm curious in regards to your process on finding your preferred loads. Clearly you're an excellent shooter and I aspire to someday be as consistent as you are. Do you put your pistol in a rest to find your ideal load or are you confident enough with your hands and eyes to just know when you've got it right?
 
Tongarirohiker said:
I'm curious in regards to your process on finding your preferred loads. Clearly you're an excellent shooter and I aspire to someday be as consistent as you are. Do you put your pistol in a rest to find your ideal load or are you confident enough with your hands and eyes to just know when you've got it right?
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I do all my testing shooting two handed. I used to be able to shoot better than what you see - with just one hand. But that was 40 years ago. My eyes aren't very good any more.

If you or your club has a Ransom Rest, that would be excellent. Failing that, rest your forearm on a rest. Concentrate on a good sight picture, focusing on the front sight.
 
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This was alot harder then I thought it would be, I never shoot this far and I immediately saw alot of errors in my shooting and sights all in all it was fun and I think this is something ill try each time I go to the range.
Great thread! Glad I finally got to play and I hope I can improve.
 
Looks like ya started to get your poop in a group on that last target, Skoal. It IS tough, isn't it? Sure, a fella can get 5~8 shots in the black easy...but what separates the men from the boys is the guys that can do it ten times straight!

For me the worst is when you are blasting clover leafs right in the bullseye with your first shots. For me - I start to get excited and start thinking about all the bragging and bloviating I'm gonna do when all my shots land right on the money...and THAT'S when I start to throw them and the flyers start cropping up! Goddammit, it makes me mad just to think about it!!!! It happens EVERY time!!!!

50 years old and I STILL get buck fever...from shooting paper...! :(

This sport sucks! But I hope to get in the game this weekend anyways.
 
skoal said:
This was alot harder then I thought it would be, I never shoot this far and I immediately saw alot of errors in my shooting and sights all in all it was fun and I think this is something ill try each time I go to the range.
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Yup, it's a tough act to follow. I started (read started) shooting HG at a range facility where the min distance to target allowed was 25yds. As a result, I spent 5 or more years simply trying to keep all my shots on a standard paper dinner plate. Never really succeeded with that endeavor. Like clock work I was bound to pull one or two shots low every session. Was frustrating and still is. Have yet to graduate to a desert plate. It's been fun trying though.

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Ok guys I finally got the chance to get out and play.

Don't hate me...

I realize the scale of the target is off by a little I reprinted the target correctly and overlayed the shots and the score is still the same.

But you can DQ me if you want as I did shoot a bull that was 4-5mm bigger than it should have been, but I shot it at 25m so probably evens out.

Used a browning buckmark udx plus with open target sights, two hand free standing isosceles stance.

I used Lapua x-act soooo good ammo at .65 cents a shot.

I did have to shoot 7 targets before I got this one and most of them weren't great.

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Very nice. Do you look through a scope to see how you are doing? I don't with center fire because if i miss the black I can see it. With 22 I keep peeking.

part of the challenge is learning how to not blow a good target with bad nerves.
 
Ganderite said:
Very nice. Do you look through a scope to see how you are doing? I don't with center fire because if i miss the black I can see it. With 22 I keep peeking.

part of the challenge is learning how to not blow a good target with bad nerves.
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When I was doing bullseye shooting ie one handed I have a range box with a scope mount on it and would peek through the scope to see how I was doing.

You can learn a lot from bullseye and a good coach doesn't hurt either!

But for the target above, two handed I just focus on lining up the sights the exact same way for every shot and to pull the trigger smoothly and consistently from shot to shot.

And of course you have the sights set on the gun.

I am really lucky to have pretty good eyesight though it's not as good as it was, and to have very steady hands.

But if I get in any state but calm those steady hands are gone.

I've also done battle with flinching and .22 is the best remedy for that, you know what you've done wrong.

I did shoot a couple targets today one handed and they would be in the low 80's

If people want to become really good shooters, shoot a lot of .22, get coaching if you can, and just shoot lots of everything, you can analyze till your head explodes quality trigger time and lead down the range are the only real ways to learn.

I also used to shoot 2-3000 rounds of .22 a month, 500-1000 rounds of 9mm, 1000 rounds of .38 (148gr. Speer hbwc 2.7gr. Bullseye) maybe 3-400 rounds of .45acp.

I did that for a few years steady and 99% at 20m
 
"When I was doing bullseye shooting ie one handed I have a range box with a scope mount on it and would peek through the scope to see how I was doing. "

When I shot bullseye 22 I peeked at each shot. I learned that if it was a surprise break with just the right amount of white above the front sight, it was in the middle. And I learned what happened if I yanked the trigger or flinched - immediately. It is a good way to learn to do it right, because you can see the immediate result.
 
Excellent group gwagen. So was the target that you shot is up-sized? But when you overlay the correct target the score still stands? Just trying to get clarification.

The only issue I have is that the black bull would have been slightly larger than the original target in the link, which makes centering the sights slightly easier, bet then you did shoot at 25 meters, which makes it slightly more difficult.

I don't want to discount anyone's efforts or anything but it makes it difficult to post the high score when the targets are shot under different parameters.
What do you guys think?

Again, gwagen excellent shooting.
 
Sure looks like the best target to me.

I am trying to shoot targets with 10 shots in the black. When I can do that regularly, I will then try to get all 10 shots inside the 10 ring.

Targets like the one above are motivating.
 
Ganderite said:
"When I was doing bullseye shooting ie one handed I have a range box with a scope mount on it and would peek through the scope to see how I was doing. "

When I shot bullseye 22 I peeked at each shot. I learned that if it was a surprise break with just the right amount of white above the front sight, it was in the middle. And I learned what happened if I yanked the trigger or flinched - immediately. It is a good way to learn to do it right, because you can see the immediate result.
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Absolutely, instant feed back about an individual shot is way more valuable that going down range every ten
 
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