has anyone tried instaling one of the Magwedge quick rails on a VZ58?

All standing. I did notice I had a couple gobs of glue from the velcro left when I first started shooting. Due to yesterdays frozen/blizzard conditions, the only plausible reason I can think was that they frozen hard and were deterring casings. If the weather keeps nice, I'll head back out this week to play with optics. I'm very interested in your new design when it becomes public.. I've spent the day considering the purchase of a new VZ for it. Very cool concept - can't wait to see pictures.

Just out of curiosity, are kwik pins solid? I'd like to shorten mine slightly to remove the slop, and changing the ring to something that looks more natural to the rifle.

I think the end is extended to hold the detent. I am not sure its a good idea to chop them. Maybe order an extra before you hack yours up ...
 
Well, I am not sure what you mean by "flat" ... the entire ejection area of the rail sits at an angle, there is no "flat" as in horizontal part. I am assuming that you don't mean the rail should be curved or bumpy, LOL.
Bear in mind that I have built at least two other prototypes and tested them as well. The current model has far fewer issues than those did.
There may be variations in individual rifles at work here, for which I can do very little.

As to height of the rail, higher might allow easier ejection, but its also quite undesirable from a shooting point of view.

You know on the SKS version where the angled cut out is (ejection zone)... you have the cut out on an angle but at the bottom of that slant it transitions out horizontally for about 1/4" width. Or does angle on the VZ version cross the entire under side of the rail?

Hopefully you know what I mean. I found shell dings on that spot with the SKS. Having no angle, the shells would bounce right back down into the action instead of deflecting out.
 
You know on the SKS version where the angled cut out is (ejection zone)... you have the cut out on an angle but at the bottom of that slant it transitions out horizontally for about 1/4" width. Or does angle on the VZ version cross the entire under side of the rail?

Hopefully you know what I mean. I found shell dings on that spot with the SKS. Having no angle, the shells would bounce right back down into the action instead of deflecting out.

The angle on the Vz full length rail crosses the entire side of the rail.
 
NICE!!!!!!

How many rounds thru it???

Need someone else to blow a few hundred or even thousands of rounds thru it :)

Only about 80 rounds, but no issues whatsoever ... aside from the gremlin in my rifle of course.

I may get another chance this weekend.

I will give you a shot at testing when all my ducks are finally in a row, but not quite ready yet.
 
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Optics was almost constant FTE.. ran my optics in every spot possible. Back to the 3-4 out of 5. Bare rail running about 1 in 30

What were you running? A scope? Did the empties hit the scope?
I have my scope mounted but been too busy to try it out. Think I'll get a chance this weekend. I plan on running at least a 100 rounds through it
 
The optic to the rear:
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The optic forward:
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Wear on the rail:
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The optic was tested in every spot from the rear to the forward position. The wear on the forward scope ring was from my SKS, not the VZ.
 
Ok.

I see a possible issue with the location of the rings in your pics. Try keeping the rear ring behind the ejection area and the front ring as forward as possible.

The location of the rear ring in the second pic looks especially problematic to me. In the first pic, the forward ring is sitting smack dab in the middle of the ejection area. You may not be able to get it completely clear, but as forward as humanly possible may well help.

If it is impossible to position this optic properly I imagine you might need to go to a smaller, more compact optic and keep both sets of rings behind the ejection area.

Have you inspected the rings for signs of impact with ejecting shells?
 
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