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SHELL SHUCKER said:
I reckon that for my own use, I'd go with a Browning Low Wall action from the ones made between 1985 & 2001. I would also use a smattering of titanium bits and carbon fiber to make it quite feathery. The chambering would be .25-35 Winchester with a 22 in. tube.

I just gotta have a hammer or cocking piece on my stalking rifles.;)

The Hagn built unit should turn out nicely though.:)
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I have a Winchester low wall in 6.5x55 I would hate to change it ,other the putting on a peep sight .
A Micro Mauser in 6.8 spc II and short thin barrel would be interesting and simple project

Dam you Ardent I almost have my salf talk into this supper light concept what are you thinking for a stalk
 
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brybenn said:
That's bigger than I was expecting actually. Having never seen one in person I just assumed they were closer to the size of a regular goat and not the size of a mature white tail buck
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The big ones can exceed 300 as Ted points out, the biggest we've taken I'd be confident approached an honest 350lbs. They're unbelievably muscular and as Ted also alludes have serious ground growth, especially when you're contemplating how many pack outs you're looking at with your 55 year old client on the fifty degree slope. They're also not goats as a side note, they just got called goats by early settlers due to their appearance and it stuck. They're Oreamnos, and the last surviving member of their genus, and about as related to mountain sheep and antelope as they are to goats.
 
I wonder if 6mm/223 might be a good choice for your rifle carverk.

I was looking at the 25/45 sharps and other AR rounds for a micro mauser and it struck me that this one never seemed to catch on. Maybe it was born at the wrong time; or bullet length and ar magazines killed its popularity.
 
Ardent said:
The big ones can exceed 300 as Ted points out, the biggest we've taken I'd be confident approached an honest 350lbs. They're unbelievably muscular and as Ted also alludes have serious ground growth, especially when you're contemplating how many pack outs you're looking at with your 55 year old client on the fifty degree slope. They're also not goats as a side note, they just got called goats by early settlers due to their appearance and it stuck. They're Oreamnos, and the last surviving member of their genus, and about as related to mountain sheep and antelope as they are to goats.
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I appreciate the info.

A Uberti 1871 carbine in 25-35 would be fun. I could modify one of those before a low wall
 
I do love the idea of a 3.5 lbs rifle don't know if it's achievable but it would be cool rifle to pack in the mountains or the bush
I have a SBR lever action in 44 mag that is well under 6 lbs it fast to point and deadly accurate but front Fiber optic sight is to big for hunting past 25 yards I have to switch out
but 3.5 lbs mite be to light to shoot off hand accurately but then again there's always sumthing to rest your rifle on pack, stump, rock or shooting stick etra
I keep coming back to 6.8 spc ll or 6.5 Grendel both would make a slick ultralight hunting rifle not just for up in the mountains but the bush as well
I don't think 6.5G would have any trouble taking moose or elk under a 100 yards or goat at 300 and still work on small game with the right bullet selection
 
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Ardent said:
Leaving out the 6mms only because I don't stock them on the bench... will be a .224 or .257...
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Ardent said:
... and on an all out ultralight build doesn't make sense to me to make a choice based on brass availability...
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Ardent... I have been looking at the numbers and trying to factor in your reasoning, but the logic here is not adding up for me... I would think that brass availability would be a more significant factor than whether or not you currently "stock" that diameter of bullet. Afterall, you will undoubtedly be purchasing a specific bullet for this project... it is as easy to buy one diameter as another... I say all this because the 6mm group would appear to me to be the best compromise, all factors considered, for your intended purpose.

You have settled on your case, with 400 on hand... consider necking it to 6mm... and just stock another size bullet.

Out of curiosity, would the Hagn Mini action accomodate the 6mm Rem cartridge... or would that require the small action?
 
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Scooped this from the website... the caption stated; "Mini Action in 6.5 Grendel," but while the barrel stamp would confirm this, the cartridge shown is a .375 H&H.

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If, in fact, they can do the Grendel in a Mini action, having it necked down to 6mm would result in a dandy little cartridge.
 
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hoytcanon said:
Scooped this from the website... the caption stated; "Mini Action in 6.5 Grendel," but while the barrel stamp would confirm this, the cartridge shown is a .375 H&H.

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If, in fact, they can do the Grendel in a Mini action, having it necked down to 6mm would result in a dandy little cartridge.
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Pretty rifle. One of these in 6mm. BR Norma would sure be fun.:)
 
Ardent said:
It won't accept a 6BR, the PPC / 7.62x39 / Grendel case head is maximum for the mini. And yes, very different world from TC.
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As much as I dislike the typical platforms, I love the X39 case... necking one down to 6mm or quarter bore would really get me excited... great "doe-culling" cartridge... of course there are lots of great light-medium gane cartridges, but a 6X39 or .25X39 would sure be a cool one... the Grendel is cool in it's own right.
 
Ardent said:
It won't accept a 6BR, the PPC / 7.62x39 / Grendel case head is maximum for the mini. And yes, very different world from TC.
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I'm realy hopping you hit 3.5 lbs goal with this project I have a felling you will be starting a run on mini Mauser actions on CGN if you make it
 
Why not just use the 6.5 Grendel as is?...... brass is readily available even without forming a 7.62 x 39 case, .264 is pretty dang close to the .257 in your OP and th Grendel was designed as long range shooter......
 
Too slow for mountain trajectories unfortunately, you have to be seeking extra work in my opinion hunting true mountain species with a cartridge under 3,000fps. They absolutely work but you remove a lot of variables the faster you go, longer zeros, simpler. Dennis Sorenson barrelled me a CZ527 in 6.5 Grendel ten ish years ago, it was pleasant though slightly underwhelming.
 
The X39 necked down to 6mm with the 80 TTSX would break 3000 fps.

Considerably, if you improved it.

It would be a pretty cute cartridge with a simple "neck-down."
 
hoytcanon said:
The X39 necked down to 6mm with the 80 TTSX would break 3000 fps.

Considerably, if you improved it.

It would be a pretty cute cartridge with a simple "neck-down."
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Absolutely...... the Grendel is capable of 2900 with a 90 grain pill, so a 6mm would definitely get you over the 3k hump...... and provide a great selection of lightweight hunting bullets as well.....
 
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