The T97 Thread!

Frank at m14ca used to make the piki rail uppers for the t97gen1. It is a Canadian design and made upper that I really liked. how does the gen2 rail compare to the old rail?
 
Just got back with about 200+ rds into the Gen2 first run. Absolutely flawless so far no FTF, FTE anything using AE 223 and Rem bucket stuff. I am starting to really like it. The only single drawback is that the upper screws came loose. I took it out earlier to change the position of the charging handle so it could totally be my fault that I didn't tighten it up enough. Btw very good grouping at 50 yards. Besides the crappy factory mag I really can't pick anything wrong with this gun at all so far. I have my die hard AR friend test fire abit with it too. Even he said he underestimated the T97 afterward.
 
How often do I need to clean the piston parts? I took mine out after yesterday's first run I found there are alot of carbon/black stuff round the parts. If I push the piston and it moves in and out smoothly then it should be more or less ok still right?

I'm trying to figure that out right now. I'm at 600 rounds and it's still working fine. As long as the piston still moves freely it should be alright. But excess gas is vented out the front, over the gas plug, and it can get to be a real pain to take out if you don't get the gunk off.
 
You should clean it after every trip. If you let it sit for afew too many weeks the carbon will oxidize and seize the gas plug.
 
Love to find out what one with a scope would do at 100 yards

I'd imagine same as a gen 1

You should clean it after every trip. If you let it sit for afew too many weeks the carbon will oxidize and seize the gas plug.



*I do not recommend this*

BUT... for the first 1500 rounds I had my first T97 I didn't know how to take the gas system apart.. so it wasn't cleaned. Zero issues cycling. Never had to go out of setting 1.

Now I clean it each time....
 
As long as your shooting often its fine, the seizing problem happens when a unclean gas system sits in the vault for months.
 
Not sure if this is the best place to post this but here goes, my son bought a t97 ftu and after about 300 rnds it has started firing two rounds in a row with one pull of the trigger. We've cleaned it thoroughly and still the same issue, any help by the t97 gurus would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance:)

Ugh. My friend who previously sent his for a sticky trigger return is now doing this. It drops the striker without another trigger pull.

I can't see any noticeable difference between his trigger pack and striker and either of mine.

It did it today 3 / 70 shots. And a the other day 4 / 100 shots. Just thought it was excess oil on the trigger surfaces... nope.

Any other ideas or is this all going to be a send away issue?
 
Ugh. My friend who previously sent his for a sticky trigger return is now doing this. It drops the striker without another trigger pull.

I can't see any noticeable difference between his trigger pack and striker and either of mine.

It did it today 3 / 70 shots. And a the other day 4 / 100 shots. Just thought it was excess oil on the trigger surfaces... nope.

Any other ideas or is this all going to be a send away issue?

The firing pin has been phosphate coated/given whatever finish is on the rest of the gun, which as far as I can tell, is something you're not supposed to do. It makes it rough, possibly sticking it in a protruding position when the bolt closes, which may cause a slamfire in commercial ammo.

Pull the firing pin and work it over with 1000gr sandpaper until it is smooth to the touch, particularly on the raised "head." (but not the very tip, think of places it would contact the inside of the bolt) It should only take about a minute. Also ensure the firing pin channel is clean and dry.

I also did some testing by inducing slamfires intentionally (easing the bolt forward, pulling the trigger, then releasing the bolt so that it strips a round off the mag and chambers it with the hammer following it home) and found that I could not slam-fire mil-spec ammo. (M855/M193, etc) The hardened primers give it enough resistance that it needs a proper hammer strike.
 
The firing pin has been phosphate coated/given whatever finish is on the rest of the gun, which as far as I can tell, is something you're not supposed to do. It makes it rough, possibly sticking it in a protruding position when the bolt closes, which may cause a slamfire in commercial ammo.

Pull the firing pin and work it over with 1000gr sandpaper until it is smooth to the touch, particularly on the raised "head." (but not the very tip, think of places it would contact the inside of the bolt) It should only take about a minute. Also ensure the firing pin channel is clean and dry.

I also did some testing by inducing slamfires intentionally (easing the bolt forward, pulling the trigger, then releasing the bolt so that it strips a round off the mag and chambers it with the hammer following it home) and found that I could not slam-fire mil-spec ammo. (M855/M193, etc) The hardened primers give it enough resistance that it needs a proper hammer strike.

It's not the firing pin. The striker is not being held by the trigger pack and it dropping it again.
 
It's not the firing pin. The striker is not being held by the trigger pack and it dropping it again.

Take a look at the trigger pack. The pins can pop out of the housing holes and drop the sear or trigger disconnecter out of alignment enough to be a problem. There's nothing holding them in but spring tension and the receiver fit, so they can pop out of alignment really easily when the pack is taken out of the rifle.
 
Take a look at the trigger pack. The pins can pop out of the housing holes and drop the sear or trigger disconnecter out of alignment enough to be a problem. There's nothing holding them in but spring tension and the receiver fit, so they can pop out of alignment really easily when the pack is taken out of the rifle.

I checked that. They were perfectly fine. I compared to another one of my T97's and it looked about 1/32nd of an inch lower into the frame of the pack, but otherwise looked identical.
 
The striker is not being held by the trigger pack and it dropping it again.

Under what conditions? Are you releasing the trigger and instead of a reset the hammer falls? Can you recreate it while dry firing? Just wondering how you observe that this is definitely what's happening.

Just trying with mine, the bolt doesn't go back far enough to pick up a new round off the mag without cocking the hammer first, so it can't be short-stroking. All I can think of is it's either being accidentally bump-fired (if you're too light on the trigger, the recoil will make you pull it again, thats happened to me a few times) or the rifle is out of spec and there's nothing to be done.
 
Take a look at the trigger pack. The pins can pop out of the housing holes and drop the sear or trigger disconnecter out of alignment enough to be a problem. There's nothing holding them in but spring tension and the receiver fit, so they can pop out of alignment really easily when the pack is taken out of the rifle.

For future references is it possible to take a picture of this (may be with an arrow or circle highlight?) so we all benefit from knowing what to check? You've got my deepest thanks ;)
 
Under what conditions? Are you releasing the trigger and instead of a reset the hammer falls? Can you recreate it while dry firing? Just wondering how you observe that this is definitely what's happening.

Just trying with mine, the bolt doesn't go back far enough to pick up a new round off the mag without cocking the hammer first, so it can't be short-stroking. All I can think of is it's either being accidentally bump-fired (if you're too light on the trigger, the recoil will make you pull it again, thats happened to me a few times) or the rifle is out of spec and there's nothing to be done.

Its happened a couple times were it released but didn't set the second round off. 1 pull of the trigger, next not even a click because the striker was resting on the next round. Almost enough to set it off but no bang.

Just thinking if it was the perfect distance where it didn't catch the trigger but could strip a round off the mag... maybe it's getting caught up or unthinkably under gassed.

On another note I had a reply from north Sylva for a price on a barrel. (They have no other parts in stock)

They want $343 plus tax and shipping.

Lol wtf
 
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