IRG needs to get the facts straight on the law here. A receiver for a firearm not classified as restricted by name is NR! The Stag 10 is classified as NR. The receivers are NR. If you put a barrel shorter than 18.5" on that receiver you must register it as restricted. Period. Whoever he talked to at the RCMP lab has provided him some pretty incorrect and misleading information.
The Stag 10s NR stripped receiver set thread
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thats how i read the law as well
im glad there is still someone with some sense on this board, they banned all the others.
Im afraid this is going to turn into another swiss arms debacle niw that IRG has involved the rcmp in their budiness strategy.
Can everyone please stop callung the rcmp on matters regarding rirearms law and consult a lawyer specialized in firearns law instead!
Whst do you really EXPECT from the rcmp except the answer NEIN NEIN NEIN VERTOBEN
I could care less what they offer and at what price . Once one receiver set is restricted without a barrel what happens to all others . They have been pretty agressive with pricing and options ever since Ae announced the NR status . I view what’s happening as another Swiss arms saga
It’s actually ridiculous what just happened. There are a lot of scabby people on this forum. Just looking to save a couple bucks at all costs. I don’t know how you could consider the reciever sets being restricted at all. That’s like saying a Rem 700 action is restricted because you put a short barrel on it and didn’t make overall length.
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I find it odd that AE took the 6.5CM rifles off line...I have a strong suspicion that when they do come back the price for those rifles will go up. Some of the other dealers already selling at a higher price at $2400 for both the 22in and 24in 6.5CM in SS.
Like you have already said the only reason the receiver set went down in price is because of IRG and AE released their pricing for 308 version as soon as IRG posted their MSRP price. Only time will tell if my speculation comes true about the missing 6.5CM listings.
You do realize those were introductory sale prices. The MSRP/normal prices were striked out in red above.
So I suspect when they come back they may very well be at MSRP depending on supply/demand and what not.
people here are pretty fuggered up..... anything to cause drama here LOL
When I was operating as a firearms business there was zero requirement to have a non restricted firearm verified after every build. LRB M25 and m14sa receivers, imported thru various businesses by myself or by customers were not classified as "restricted untill a barrel was installed that was of non restricted length" HOGWASH.
more chicken little, sky is falling bullsh*t.
** However..... if one has a 12(x) license and owns a converted auto under that license..... If you render that firearm to a stripped receiver it's classification does indeed change as soon as that barrel comes off. It reverts to it's original class.... a machine gun , and the 12(x) owners license does not cover ownership if the receiver at that point. It "must" be turned in for destruction OR a barrel must be reinstalled.
this only applies to converted autos and not to non restricted firearms. If it did.... there would be no market in canada for building firearms and we all know there is a thriving culture of those who build thier own firearms within the laws.
If you change the classification of a non restricted to restricted or restricted to non restricted by barrel length change.... you do have to get it verfied.
I don't know what game Irunguns is playing but nothing in his post makes any sense to me and either he is being lied to by the rcmp or it is misinformation posted on purpose to fak with arms east.
Stupid little games people play here on CGN LOL
and to the guy who said CALL A FIREARMS LAWYER not the rcmp when you have questions like this...... you would think this would be most gun owners/businesses first thought eh? sadly our community shoots itself in the foot on a near daily basis.
When I was operating as a firearms business there was zero requirement to have a non restricted firearm verified after every build. LRB M25 and m14sa receivers, imported thru various businesses by myself or by customers were not classified as "restricted untill a barrel was installed that was of non restricted length" HOGWASH.
more chicken little, sky is falling bullsh*t.
** However..... if one has a 12(x) license and owns a converted auto under that license..... If you render that firearm to a stripped receiver it's classification does indeed change as soon as that barrel comes off. It reverts to it's original class.... a machine gun , and the 12(x) owners license does not cover ownership if the receiver at that point. It "must" be turned in for destruction OR a barrel must be reinstalled.
this only applies to converted autos and not to non restricted firearms. If it did.... there would be no market in canada for building firearms and we all know there is a thriving culture of those who build thier own firearms within the laws.
If you change the classification of a non restricted to restricted or restricted to non restricted by barrel length change.... you do have to get it verfied.
I don't know what game Irunguns is playing but nothing in his post makes any sense to me and either he is being lied to by the rcmp or it is misinformation posted on purpose to fak with arms east.
Stupid little games people play here on CGN LOL
and to the guy who said CALL A FIREARMS LAWYER not the rcmp when you have questions like this...... you would think this would be most gun owners/businesses first thought eh? sadly our community shoots itself in the foot on a near daily basis.
This has been resolved as of yesterday around 7pm PST.
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...10-complete-lower-receiver-sets-NR-409-99-USD
Was a misunderstanding between IRG and the lab.
Time to move on
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...10-complete-lower-receiver-sets-NR-409-99-USD
Was a misunderstanding between IRG and the lab.
Time to move on
ME?
I asked the question, which revealed what IRG was doing... If you think that my question started this, you’re crazy. They were Planning to ship those out as restricted based on what they were told. My question started the discussion that eventually got it cleared up on their end. You’re welcome
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I understand this was resolved. But honestly I'm very tired of this.
I lost a lot of money in the swiss arms fiasco, having to sell a rifle at a huge loss.
The RCMP lab is not on our side, they are not impartial and unbiased, they want to screw us at any chance possible.
Why haven't all of you figured this out yet?
But this thread is not about Swiss arms.
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You do realize the original listing for those rifles on AE's website didn't have that imaginary numbers in red (striked out) like you were talking about right? Internet never forgets...do a search and check for yourself. If you can't find it I will take screen shots and post them for you.
I'm not sure what you're getting at. The red striked out prices were definitely there upon initial launch.
Take a look at this thread, comment #58 and the reply is comment #61 https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...-Non-Restricted-Canada/page6?highlight=stag10
Now here is a screen shot from Stag's website showing the same thing (only is USD).
Hmmmm....
It would be stupid for them to increase prices if they don't have some type of agreement with Stag or IRG. If they don't... people will just order from IRG.
If I remember correctly their 308 system was supposed to be significantly cheaper then 6.5. It is not... and they downgraded trigger and stock. What a embarrassing cluster####...
On a positive note - I managed to find my back-up SSA trigger!
It would be stupid for them to increase prices if they don't have some type of agreement with Stag or IRG. If they don't... people will just order from IRG.
If I remember correctly their 308 system was supposed to be significantly cheaper then 6.5. It is not... and they downgraded trigger and stock. What a embarrassing cluster####...
On a positive note - I managed to find my back-up SSA trigger!
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