Native led "ban" on moose hunting in BC expanded...

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Its not closed to anyone who buys a tag.. the natives are just illegally trying to stop white people to hunt.. becuase they are rasist. Not because the lack of the species..

I think it is not really a hunting issue as much as it is an effort to reinforce their claim that it is their land and therefore they have the right to control who uses it and how.
 
I have a draw in one of those areas starting Monday. I was planning on heading up on Friday for two weeks. Now one of my partners is thinking of backing out and theother is lukewarm about going too.

Do I want to go moose hunting alone given the current situation?
 
I have a draw in one of those areas starting Monday. I was planning on heading up on Friday for two weeks. Now one of my partners is thinking of backing out and theother is lukewarm about going too.

Do I want to go moose hunting alone given the current situation?

Nope..Don't go on your own. Minimum 3 and stay close to each other.
A native guy I worked with years ago was was picking mushrooms with his native GF.. They had guns pointed at them and told to get off our land ..
There's no love lost between tribes.. and whitey .they'd bury you
 
So basically what needs to happen if we want all people of Canada to be equal is the Canadian government needs to formally declare war against these independent nations, seize all lands within their claimed territories and only accept unconditional surrender of their government and it's people....is this correct?

Sounds good to me... the equality that is. All peoples living in Canada should be treated equally. Race or gender, age,..etc should have no bearing or consideration what so ever. That goes for employment opportunities too.
 
Nope..Don't go on your own. Minimum 3 and stay close to each other.
A native guy I worked with years ago was was picking mushrooms with his native GF.. They had guns pointed at them and told to get off our land ..
There's no love lost between tribes.. and whitey .they'd bury you

LMFAO...I am sure natives are out there murdering people for hunting on "their" land. :rolleyes:


MD, tell your buddies to stop being such cowards and carry on with the hunt while you still can as you never know when the opportunity to hunt the area may be lost.
 
Nope..Don't go on your own. Minimum 3 and stay close to each other.
A native guy I worked with years ago was was picking mushrooms with his native GF.. They had guns pointed at them and told to get off our land ..
There's no love lost between tribes.. and whitey .they'd bury you

I had the same thing happen to me, except it was some European decent people and we where dirt biking during hunting season, some clowns feel they make the rules and that is particularly true when you are looking at the business end of firearm held by the embodiment of little man syndrome.
 
Its not closed to anyone who buys a tag.. the natives are just illegally trying to stop white people to hunt.. becuase they are rasist. Not because the lack of the species..

All i see is a handfull of folks here perpetrating the "racist" type behavior with comments like yours.
Poor "whitey" right?
so black folks, asian folks, and other Non white folks don't hunt or those that do aren't affected because this is afterall.... just about taking privledges away from "whitey" right?
get over yourselves LOL

the province has already stated the areas the ministry has closed and thier reasons for doing so. As conservationists , regardless of ethnicity, we have to respect it. Like the Mule deer rut closures in region 5... we hated those, doubted thier authenticity and many folks hunted anyways and some got caught and charged, native and non native alike.
The ministry has also stated that they are no giving the bands the authority to expand those closures and existing hunts will stay in place....

so what's the deal?
If you have a tag and it's still valid , go use it. If someone interferes with your lawful hunt, call the CO and the rcmp. If you are concerned about interacting with first nations, go visit the band office. If you are successful, take the time to drop hides, lower legs ect at the band office and make sure they take your name. I'm as white as casper the ghost... yet I'm identified as aboriginal due to my dad's heritage.... not my fault I'm white.... not my fault I'm Metis .... but I take a different approach than most hunters I know and it has afforded me inroads into areas where non first nations hunters may be made to feel unwelcome.
I think what sets me off here is the whining from certain individuals who need stop acting like only "whitey" is affected by this situation because last time I checked..... white people were fast becoming a minority in this province.
 
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I had the same thing happen to me, except it was some European decent people and we where dirt biking during hunting season, some clowns feel they make the rules and that is particularly true when you are looking at the business end of firearm held by the embodiment of little man syndrome.

Hunters getting pissed off while you're dirt biking - Can't understand why that would happen??:rolleyes:
 
All i see is a handfull of folks here perpetrating the "racist" type behavior with comments like yours.
Poor "whitey" right?
so black folks, asian folks, and other Non white folks don't hunt or those that do aren't affected because this is afterall.... just about taking privledges away from "whitey" right?
get over yourselves LOL

the province has already stated the areas the ministry has closed and thier reasons for doing so. As conservationists , regardless of ethnicity, we have to respect it. Like the Mule deer rut closures in region 5... we hated those, doubted thier authenticity and many folks hunted anyways and some got caught and charged, native and non native alike.
The ministry has also stated that they are no giving the bands the authority to expand those closures and existing hunts will stay in place....

so what's the deal?
If you have a tag and it's still valid , go use it. If someone interferes with your lawful hunt, call the CO and the rcmp. If you are concerned about interacting with first nations, go visit the band office. If you are successful, take the time to drop hides, lower legs ect at the band office and make sure they take your name. I'm as white as casper the ghost... yet I'm identified as aboriginal due to my dad's heritage.... not my fault I'm white.... not my fault I'm Metis .... but I take a different approach than most hunters I know and it has afforded me inroads into areas where non first nations hunters may be made to feel unwelcome.
I think what sets me off here is the whining from certain individuals who need stop acting like only "whitey" is affected by this situation because last time I checked..... white people were fast becoming a minority in this province.

Wake up.. when people type "whitey" meaning non native.. that area is not closed to hunting at all.. and they have no right to block any legal person from doing anything on CROWN land..
Which this area is.. and by the way Metis should not have status in my option no one should have any kind of status over any other person. Time to move on people and start collecting taxes and contribute to society!!
 
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Haters gonna hate and the real haters don't discriminate...... they even hate themselves...... maybe that's the problem?
 
Haters gonna hate and the real haters don't discriminate...... they even hate themselves...... maybe that's the problem?

perhaps.
it also shows how under educated average folks are about the actually history of this once fine country.

as an aside.... and not a reply to can-down
As far as metis rights are concerned..... I have no comment i wish to share on that other than this.... My right to hunt, fish and harvest off the land are constitutionally protected and I would personally like to see that "right" shared among all canadian citizens. I have no control over that though , other than to support the current system by buying licenses, tags and playing the game like everyone else. I have never posted anything here to the contrary, however.... I respect the ancestry and tradition of the indigenous peoples of canada. I also understand that thier lives are dictated by the government, the Indian Act and are at the whim of thier band councils. The debt is not paid.... I don't necessarily agree with how and what some are demanding as repayment.... but from my point of view "some" bands have every right to be speaking up. I am not saying that applies to BC's moose hunting , we need far more than a few natives and resident hunters getting ruffled feathers over BC's moose and carbou and predator populations , coupled with demands for industry to replace moose browse and remove invasive species that are killing willow swamps throughout the moose range.

personally, I'll hunt moose in the far north of the province where numbers permit open seasons. I'm okay chasing elk for a few years too since at the end of the day, it's all about putting a few hundred pounds of meat in the freezer and having a good time doing it.

if you ask me..... going forward..... if we as hunters want hunting to continue and be protected for future generations.... we as hunters need to bury the hatchet and make friends with the natives and go after government and industrial land use together.
 
I also understand that thier lives are dictated by the government, the Indian Act and are at the whim of thier band councils.

Just because the government offers an “enhanced” set of rules for indigenous people to follow, I don’t believe that they are in any way forced into it. I know plenty of native people who chose to play the game by the same rules as the rest of us (“whiteys”, Asians, blacks, etc.). A particular example would be my uncle Les. Sorry, but I don’t buy into the rhetoric: “it’s all uncle sams fault”. Are we not all born with free will? The choice is up to each of us as individuals how we want to operate in the world.
 
45ACPKING - very on point with your comment that “the debt is not paid yet”. What exactly do you think needs to be done to pay the debt? That’s the real issue here. The vast majority of Canadians are expected to pay this debt to a small portion of the population but have no say in the matter.

And an equally important question that I have NEVER heard asked is this: Aboriginal Rights are not tied to any reciporical obligations or responsibilities. Why is this so?
 
I have a tremendous amount of respect for any Indigenous that chooses to buy tags and licenses and hunt during the seasons like all non indigenous even though they could legally hunt whatever and whenever they want. They deserve the title "Stewards of the Land". The rest not so much.
 
I can see road blocks in the Chilcotin under the cover of information and education stops.
Then if you continue to hunt they'll pay you a visit at your camp.
After that who knows what will happen. Report harrasment to the RCMP?? Sure nothing will happen
The Alexis Creek detachment only has 8 members? So only 2 on duty per shift??
We had firefights during the Gustafsen Lake standoff a few years ago
The RCMP were outgunned so the Canadian Army was deployed.
I can see that happening again..Sadly so
 
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45acpking you should have to buy tags like the rest of us. Wanna be equal? Buy some damn tags. Who cares what rights you have, spend some cash and buy some tags even if you don't need to. Set an example.

"I'm metis and I buy tags and put in for priority on LEH hunts. If I don't get drawn I won't hunt. We all need to stand up and do what's right to conserve wildlife."

But nah you would never do that. Neither would any other native person. Keep preaching but until you hunt like the settlers you're nothing but a hypocrite.
 
45acpking you should have to buy tags like the rest of us. Wanna be equal? Buy some damn tags. Who cares what rights you have, spend some cash and buy some tags even if you don't need to. Set an example.

"I'm metis and I buy tags and put in for priority on LEH hunts. If I don't get drawn I won't hunt. We all need to stand up and do what's right to conserve wildlife."

But nah you would never do that. Neither would any other native person. Keep preaching but until you hunt like the settlers you're nothing but a hypocrite.

Very good post!!
 
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