New SK trespassing laws coming soon

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torontogungal said:
In many areas of Ontario not so much unless your a treaty carded aboriginal.
For example adult moose tags issued in the annual lottery in some WMUs are so few that the opportunity to hunt adult moose for non aboriginals is practically unavailable.
Hunting lodges in our WMU whose existence depends on the annual moose hunt have been issued “0” adult moose tags for their guests.
Yet the MNR continues to take our lottery application money even though the chances of success are next to nothing.
A money scam for want of a better phrase.
If they’re going to shut down the annual moose hunt just be honest and say so.
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We could start a whole new thread with this. It's becoming a real sore point with Ontario Moose hunters. It's kind of like the government pissin' down your leg and saying it's just raining.
 
One point that has not been brought up in 15 pages is the fact that the fish and wildlife belong to the people of Saskatchewan! ALL the people, not just hunters or farmers. There has to be reasonable access for hunters to get access to game. I live in a city and use RM maps regularly in my job. As pointed out by Peace River, it is getting very hard to figure out who owns what land and where they might be contacted. There is no phone book with cell numbers in it and that is the only phone most people have now.
When I hunt deer, I don't usually cover vast amounts of country so it's much easier to find the few landowners and seek permission. I'd never set up a blind or tree stand without permission. If I see a good deer on un-posted land, not near a farmyard, would I shoot it? YUP!
When I hunt upland birds I often walk an old yard site then drive several miles to the next spot. I cover huge tracts of land doing this and if I need permission for each little piece of ground to hunt I'd be spending all my vacation days and a #### load of money to buy maps, drive around and talk to people to secure permission for every little chunk I hunt. Once the season ended I'd have to start asking again right away to gain access for the next year.
If I come on your land to steal stuff - SHOOT ME!
If I wreak a fence or leave a gate open - CUT MY NUTS OFF!
If land is posted, I have two options 1) don't hunt there or 2) ask permission. This works 100% for me.

Again I point out that hunters and fisherman are using other people's land to access game that belongs to everyone!

Arguing that I'd freak out if people camped on my front lawn is not a valid point. If your kid throws a ball into my yard, by all means come get it. The ball belongs to you. And I'd never dream of camping on someone's private land without permission no matter where it is!

Right now, we as hunters and anglers have pretty free and easy access to game. Be very wary of anything that will change that. Mandatory permission WILL change it!

The #### heads of the world will still steal your truck if we have mandatory permission laws. Poachers will still poach on land they shouldn't be on.

Honest, law abiding hunters will be less likely to be out in the field because the cost of hunting will go up considerably. And who's going to replace those hunters? It's hard to encourage young hunters as it is. Throw up a major roadblock and see how much that cuts their numbers.

I think our system right now is just fine. Leave it alone!
 
Suka said:
There's Lot's of crown land to hunt on. In AB other than on our own land we only hunted crown land. That way we could hunt moose every year and elk anytime we wanted.
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There is no crown land,for the most part, in southern Saskatchewan. Since the demise of federal community pastures, and the lease of them to local owners, with the likely end game of them becoming tle lands (treaty land entitlement-owned by Indian bands), “free” hunting in Saskatchewan will effectively end. Too much trouble/effort=no hunters,firearm owners. No matter your opinion of private property... that will be the end result. Not one we should selfishly hope for just because of a few slob hunters.
 
Ranger G said:
One point that has not been brought up in 15 pages is the fact that the fish and wildlife belong to the people of Saskatchewan! ALL the people, not just hunters or farmers. There has to be reasonable access for hunters to get access to game. I live in a city and use RM maps regularly in my job. As pointed out by Peace River, it is getting very hard to figure out who owns what land and where they might be contacted. There is no phone book with cell numbers in it and that is the only phone most people have now.
When I hunt deer, I don't usually cover vast amounts of country so it's much easier to find the few landowners and seek permission. I'd never set up a blind or tree stand without permission. If I see a good deer on un-posted land, not near a farmyard, would I shoot it? YUP!
When I hunt upland birds I often walk an old yard site then drive several miles to the next spot. I cover huge tracts of land doing this and if I need permission for each little piece of ground to hunt I'd be spending all my vacation days and a #### load of money to buy maps, drive around and talk to people to secure permission for every little chunk I hunt. Once the season ended I'd have to start asking again right away to gain access for the next year.
If I come on your land to steal stuff - SHOOT ME!
If I wreak a fence or leave a gate open - CUT MY NUTS OFF!
If land is posted, I have two options 1) don't hunt there or 2) ask permission. This works 100% for me.

Again I point out that hunters and fisherman are using other people's land to access game that belongs to everyone!

Arguing that I'd freak out if people camped on my front lawn is not a valid point. If your kid throws a ball into my yard, by all means come get it. The ball belongs to you. And I'd never dream of camping on someone's private land without permission no matter where it is!

Right now, we as hunters and anglers have pretty free and easy access to game. Be very wary of anything that will change that. Mandatory permission WILL change it!

The #### heads of the world will still steal your truck if we have mandatory permission laws. Poachers will still poach on land they shouldn't be on.

Honest, law abiding hunters will be less likely to be out in the field because the cost of hunting will go up considerably. And who's going to replace those hunters? It's hard to encourage young hunters as it is. Throw up a major roadblock and see how much that cuts their numbers.

I think our system right now is just fine. Leave it alone!
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I am a land owner and I agree with every word.
 
Ranger G said:
One point that has not been brought up in 15 pages is the fact that the fish and wildlife belong to the people of Saskatchewan! ALL the people, not just hunters or farmers. There has to be reasonable access for hunters to get access to game. I live in a city and use RM maps regularly in my job. As pointed out by Peace River, it is getting very hard to figure out who owns what land and where they might be contacted. There is no phone book with cell numbers in it and that is the only phone most people have now.
When I hunt deer, I don't usually cover vast amounts of country so it's much easier to find the few landowners and seek permission. I'd never set up a blind or tree stand without permission. If I see a good deer on un-posted land, not near a farmyard, would I shoot it? YUP!
When I hunt upland birds I often walk an old yard site then drive several miles to the next spot. I cover huge tracts of land doing this and if I need permission for each little piece of ground to hunt I'd be spending all my vacation days and a #### load of money to buy maps, drive around and talk to people to secure permission for every little chunk I hunt. Once the season ended I'd have to start asking again right away to gain access for the next year.
If I come on your land to steal stuff - SHOOT ME!
If I wreak a fence or leave a gate open - CUT MY NUTS OFF!
If land is posted, I have two options 1) don't hunt there or 2) ask permission. This works 100% for me.

Again I point out that hunters and fisherman are using other people's land to access game that belongs to everyone!

Arguing that I'd freak out if people camped on my front lawn is not a valid point. If your kid throws a ball into my yard, by all means come get it. The ball belongs to you. And I'd never dream of camping on someone's private land without permission no matter where it is!

Right now, we as hunters and anglers have pretty free and easy access to game. Be very wary of anything that will change that. Mandatory permission WILL change it!

The #### heads of the world will still steal your truck if we have mandatory permission laws. Poachers will still poach on land they shouldn't be on.

Honest, law abiding hunters will be less likely to be out in the field because the cost of hunting will go up considerably. And who's going to replace those hunters? It's hard to encourage young hunters as it is. Throw up a major roadblock and see how much that cuts their numbers.

I think our system right now is just fine. Leave it alone!
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LOL

You're not so honest and law abiding if you are trespassing are you?

Mandatory permission is no more a road block to honest law abiding hunting than having to get a hunting license is.

Shawn
 
Rules for new owners of land in Saskatchewan:

1) buy land
2) post no trespassing no hunting signs every 100 yards
3) refuse any hunters who ask permission because you like looking at deer, and your wife thinks hunters are yucky
4) plant a garden, lawn, crops, whatever
5) have the overpopulated, starving deer eating your apple trees, garden, pissing and ####ting on your bales so cows won’t eat them.
6) get the government (taxpayers) to pay for your stupidity and losses
7) beg hunters to kill some deer for you
It’s called the law of unintended consequences, nothing like paying for somebody’s bales on posted land...to piss me off
 
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Rules for hunters in SK

1) find land someone else paid for
2) use land that you did not pay for
3) don't ask permission to use land that you did not pay for
4) does not know what the owner is using land for or how their "use" impacts it
5) shoot any deer they see from road and "use" land they do not own to chase it down/recover it
6) whine that the government is using tax payer money to try and manage wildlife populations and that they "own" the animals
7) tells every one they are "honest and law abiding" when they break the law because they are cheap

Its called the law of intended consequences. The land owner intended to use the land so he bought it, instead of trespassing on someone else's land illegally.

Shawn
 
Ranger G nailed it!
I'm a Sask landowner and an avid hunter. I've got a couple "honey holes" that are posted but the rest of my land is not. On any given day there may well be a big buck or bull elk on the un-posted stuff for a hunter to stalk. Have at 'er, I do the same.
Now if the law changes and somehow I'm tracked down at my busy job with "hi, I'm Shawn from moose jaw and.....". The answer is No. I've got lots of friends and family that hunt,thanks for the tip. Mandatory permission will absolutely reduce hunter opportunity and enjoyment.
We've got to remember that Saskatchewan is a large and diverse landscape and "normal' changes every 50 miles. What might make sense in the RM of corman park often seems ridiculous out here in the waisties. Lots of us resent more rules and regulation pushed at us.
 
starvin said:
Ranger G nailed it!
I'm a Sask landowner and an avid hunter. I've got a couple "honey holes" that are posted but the rest of my land is not. On any given day there may well be a big buck or bull elk on the un-posted stuff for a hunter to stalk. Have at 'er, I do the same.
Now if the law changes and somehow I'm tracked down at my busy job with "hi, I'm Shawn from moose jaw and.....". The answer is No. I've got lots of friends and family that hunt,thanks for the tip. Mandatory permission will absolutely reduce hunter opportunity and enjoyment.
We've got to remember that Saskatchewan is a large and diverse landscape and "normal' changes every 50 miles. What might make sense in the RM of corman park often seems ridiculous out here in the waisties. Lots of us resent more rules and regulation pushed at us.
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If you want to let random people do what ever they want on your land that is up to you. But you have no right to tell others how they use their land or let others use their land.

Its as simple as that.

Shawn
 
shawn said:
If you want to let random people do what ever they want on your land that is up to you. But you have no right to tell others how they use their land or let others use their land.

Its as simple as that.

Shawn
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Again, there is already a system in place to control who goes on our land.

It's called posting and gives us complete control over who gets permission to access the land.

It's as simple as that.
 
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shawn said:
Rules for hunters in SK

1) find land someone else paid for
2) use land that you did not pay for
3) don't ask permission to use land that you did not pay for
4) does not know what the owner is using land for or how their "use" impacts it
5) shoot any deer they see from road and "use" land they do not own to chase it down/recover it
6) whine that the government is using tax payer money to try and manage wildlife populations and that they "own" the animals
7) tells every one they are "honest and law abiding" when they break the law because they are cheap

Its called the law of intended consequences. The land owner intended to use the land so he bought it, instead of trespassing on someone else's land illegally.

Shawn
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If someone steps on your land and does no damage of any kind without you knowing it, who is the victim?
 
I’ll play the game too
Rules for hunting in sask:
1. Buy a small chunk of scrub land for many times it’s value. If you’re poor bribe an indifferent landowner for exclusive permission.
2 post perimeter of said property every 100 feet. Build some booby traps to catch the farmer rounding up his lost cow.
3. Put a big bait pile in the middle of said property. Bigger than the neighbors.
4. Spend tens of thousands on a side by side, cameras,enclosed heated blinds , rangefinders,ballistic turrets, mail order camo,etc. to maintain your bait pile.
5. Document every moment on instagram, don’t forget the face paint.

Fast forward to nov 21. An old guy in carharts and his grandson wearing oversized coveralls stalk up the adjoining un posted fence line and plunk a big old buck. Our hunter is outraged that someone “poached” “his”deer that he had fed for 3 years. Tries to buy the neighbors out and is told to piss off. Advertises his hunting stuff on cgn and kijiji for new price. He has to fund his divorce because he’s a miserable POS
 
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starvin said:
I’ll play the game too
Rules for hunting in sask:
1. Buy a small chunk of scrub land for many times it’s value. If you’re poor bribe an indifferent landowner for exclusive permission.
2 post perimeter of said property every 100 feet. Build some booby traps to catch the farmer rounding up his lost cow.
3. Put a big bait pile in the middle of said property. Bigger than the neighbors.
4. Spend tens of thousands on a side by side, cameras,enclosed heated blinds , rangefinders,ballistic turrets, mail order camo,etc. to maintain your bait pile.
5. Document every moment on instagram, don’t forget the face paint.

Fast forward to nov 21. An old guy in carharts and his grandson wearing oversized coveralls stalk up the adjoining fence line and plunk a big old buck. Our hunter is outraged that someone poached his deer that he had fed for 3 years. Tries to buy the neighbors out anis told to piss off. Advertises his hunting stuff on cgn and kijiji for new price. He has to fund his divorce because he’s a miserable POS
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What does that have to do with Saskatchewan trespassing laws?
 
skhunter said:
How have they been harmed?

Hurt feelings?
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they obviously purchased the land for their own use be it camping, quiet walks, crops or just to enjoy, it does not matter if they only use it once per year they are paying taxes every day its theirs

we have land west of Saskatoon zone 45, its 80% bush and good hunting, adjacent is the wildlife lands, our use is a odd weekend get away with the kids, we use to go trail walking, dirt biking and tobogganing in winter, even though it is posted it is common for hunters to be shooting in there, they get belligerent when asked to leave, we have had snowmobiles go thro there stating its their highway, last winter some hunters cut the lock off the gates, then removed the one gate and threw it in the bust also removing the no trespass signs, we found carcasses on the trail,

this land we paid for and figured with the abundant land besides at least hunters and recreational riders would not enter but it appears not, had they asked permission I would likely not agree because once someone sees a hunter on the property they figure its fair play
 
Mandatory permission= pay to play.
How else do you think landowners are going to sort the dozens or hundreds of calls.
Don’t be so naive
 
scott_r said:
I hate even linking anything to CBC but this was out there. Looks like things are gonna change for hunters, hikers, ATV'er, snowmobilers ect... in Sask. Nothing new for us trappers who have to ask permission, get special permits and report to CO's often. I really don't understand why FSIN is so against having people obtain permission on private land to enter on it, Im sure the chief would be upset if you just wondered on his property for the hell of it.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/sask...respassing-law-mandatory-permission-1.4815756
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If land is posted, or not, I always ask for permission, even leased land and community grazing pastures. Why I ask for permission, my ethics. Equally, these land owners are a great source of information. I'm always looking for a big buck, and who better to ask, the land owner of course.
 
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