DU damage control email....

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Melvin said:
Ducks Unlimited will be around long after the boys at TSE and Wolverine have taken your money and retired to Arizona or gone on permanent safari in Africa. DU will be giving back to the community and making a positive contribution to your hunting and shooting lifestyle for many more generations. You’d better hope so .
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I'm not sure why you feel the need to attack small business owners in Canada in order to prop up Ducks Unlimited's credibility...... but I hope they will change their name to Ducks Limited and that their board member steps down from the Advisory Committee on Firearms.

Nothing wrong with strong principles..... but you can't have it both ways and then pretend it's all about principles. The tax status part seems like a fairly lame excuse to me. It could easily be argued that as a hunting/environmental group, hunting and the guns hunters use is relative. They should be pointing out the benefits of duck hunting with semi auto's not hiding in the background and stating their only concern is habitat.

If as they claim they can not get involved in politics and guns... the board member should have never agreed to get involved in politics and guns.

Gun owners are already under represented under this govt..... having a "lame duck" on the committee is shameful.
 
Melvin said:
Ducks Unlimited will be around long after the boys at TSE and Wolverine have taken your money and retired to Arizona or gone on permanent safari in Africa. DU will be giving back to the community and making a positive contribution to your hunting and shooting lifestyle for many more generations. You’d better hope so .
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Neither of the small business have “taken” money, rather they have engaged in transactions with customers. And the contributions to our shooting sports community is greater than that of DU, which has been clearly exhibited over the past few months. Also, your statement of retirement to Arizona or Africa has an undertone of condescension as though they are not invested in the future of future Firearm rights. If they weren’t committed, they likely would have entered into another industry that isn’t under constant assault from the Liberals. After years of hard work, they deserve a good retirement, regardless of their geographic location during that time.
 
saskbooknut said:
If the internet lynch mob invested this energy on influencing the government, the effort would be better spent.
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Melvin said:
Ducks Unlimited will be around long after the boys at TSE and Wolverine have taken your money and retired to Arizona or gone on permanent safari in Africa. DU will be giving back to the community and making a positive contribution to your hunting and shooting lifestyle for many more generations. You’d better hope so .
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Says the two who probably haven't written a letter or sent an email to politicians in a decade. And are more than likely part of the 2 million out of 2.2 million firearm owners who aren't members of CSSA, CCFR, NFA. Because it doesn't fit their narrative. If I lose my guns, so will you two bright spots.
So don't prance around here like your immune to the situation.
 
scott_r said:
Thats about the dumbest thing Ive read in a while. Lets kill off all kinds of creatures habitat over a worthless online petition? Shameful.
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Last time i checked, owning land meant you could do what you wanted with your own land. Guy might actually ......gasp.....use a internal combustion engine tractor to clear that land. It will contribute to absolutely nothing that the lieberal do nothing carbon tax is not supposed to accomplish.
 
Laughable....they only support things that directly benefit them��. Well that's clear....too bad they fail to understand that it's their volunteers, fund raising, and donations that keep them alive and if they choose to not support us then it's very clear they deserve to not be supported. Their behavior is pathetic and unbecoming.
 
Melvin said:
Ducks Unlimited will be around long after the boys at TSE and Wolverine have taken your money and retired to Arizona or gone on permanent safari in Africa. DU will be giving back to the community and making a positive contribution to your hunting and shooting lifestyle for many more generations. You’d better hope so .
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Melvin said:
Ducks Unlimited will be around long after the boys at TSE and Wolverine have taken your money and retired to Arizona or gone on permanent safari in Africa. DU will be giving back to the community and making a positive contribution to your hunting and shooting lifestyle for many more generations. You’d better hope so .
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Now the duckblind can go read for them selves who does what and for whom, that is if you want the truth or continue to be led around by lies!

Educate or Procrastinate



OFAH
https://www.ourcommons.ca/Search/en/website?text=Ontario Federation of anglers and hunters


NFA
https://www.ourcommons.ca/Search/en/website?text=National firearm Association


CSSA
https://www.ourcommons.ca/Search/en/website?text=Canadian Shooting Sports Association



CCFR
https://www.ourcommons.ca/Search/en/website?text=Canadian Coalition for Firearm Rights



DU
https://www.ourcommons.ca/Search/en/website?text=Ducks unlimited
 
Vewdu said:
I have and I find it absolutely disgusting that some of you people seem to think that having a black rifle is more important than actually protecting the land we share with nature.

Just absolutely ####ing silly what this community will rally behind. None of you realize there is no good that comes out of this, DUC won't change their stance and they shouldn't. All this has managed to do, is make all of us look like a bunch of dicks and gun crazy tools that think an AR is more valuable than sustaining wildlife. It's an echo chamber in here of people jerking each other off and congratulating each other on sending hostile or backhanded letters to a conservation group.

Every single one of you should be ashamed. What use is that rifle, if the land it's supposed to "protect" is dead?
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So if environment is more important than individual freedoms, I guess you'd be OK if the government followed your logic and decided you should be locked up for poluting with your car?

I bet if we dissected your life and daily habits it would become impossible for you to pretend you value the environment more than you value your individual liberties, so stop with the hypocrisy and virtue signalling already.

And by the way, no one said DU shouldn't do what they do, we're merely saying support, or lack thereof, goes both ways.

Youza.
 
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Youzawhale said:
So if environment is more important than individual freedoms, I guess you'd be OK if the government followed your logic and decided you should be locked up for poluting with your car?


I bet if we dissected your life and daily habits it would become impossible for you to pretend you value the environment more than you value your individual freedoms. So stop with the virtue signalling.

And by the way, no one said DU shouldn't do what they do, we're merely saying support, or lack thereof, goes both ways.


Youza.
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Exactly, well said.
 
This in fighting does not solve anything. Many are upset with the lack of support from a Conservation group deeply rooted in the Sportsmen community and that is perfectly fair. To wish someone looses their firearms is just disgusting, taking someones property without consent is theft. If you support the blatant government overreach then then you have really got to take a look at your priorities. You have no right to judge where a man spends or doesn't spend his hard earned money. Be it in Conservation efforts, black firearms, or whatever else have you. If you are a Firearms owner you are apart of this community. As a member of this community we should all strive to protect our property rights as free Canadians. Stop this bickering over a Charity. You have no obligation to donate to them, they have no obligation to support us. They have chosen to remain out of this fight and they have lost support because of it. It's done, quit fighting eachother and let's get back to spreading the petition and writing our Representatives. Spread the word and keep fighting boys.
 
scott_r said:
Mug shot of the guy that did more damage to our community the Ducks Unlimited. How quickly everyone forgets.
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Yes, I get it... 8 years ago, I ####ed up. I since then have acknowledged my mistake and like the previous 12 years, have continued to support the shooting community as a whole.

You don't "get rich" in this industry, so please don't try to paint me as the benevolent mogul. I still work everyday in my business after 20 years.

Fortunately, most in the community have chosen to forgive me, give me another chance and move on. I am grateful for that and I believe I have proven my "worth" to the shooting community 10 fold. I never forget how actions can spiral and also how the "anti's" are waiting for any excuse or opportunity to split us.

Please do not let your dislike for me, divide the community. We've never been under threat like we are now.

Sincerely,

JR
 
TSE JR said:
Yes, I get it... 8 years ago, I ####ed up. I since then have acknowledged my mistake and like the previous 12 years, have continued to support the shooting community as a whole.

You don't "get rich" in this industry, so please don't try to paint me as the benevolent mogul. I still work everyday in my business after 20 years.

Fortunately, most in the community have chosen to forgive me, give me another chance and move on. I am grateful for that and I believe I have proven my "worth" to the shooting community 10 fold. I never forget how actions can spiral and also how the "anti's" are waiting for any excuse or opportunity to split us.

Please do not let your dislike for me, divide the community. We've never been under threat like we are now.

Sincerely,

JR
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I appreciate your honesty and willingness to admit to faults, but I would not for one second be apologizing to the people who continue to live in the past and can't seem to take their blinders off long enough to see the present or the future. They should seriously consider the statement on the firearm stance by DU on their own website and contemplate what kind of "fantasy island" scenario are they trying to play out here.


https://www.ducks.org/about-ducks-unlimited/du-statement-on-firearms

DU strongly supports the right to bear arms and believes that with that right comes a responsibility to use firearms lawfully and safely. The ownership and use of firearms is intertwined with wildlife management and conservation in North America, and we strongly support hunting. Without hunters and recreational shooters and their financial contributions through hunting licenses and excise taxes on sporting arms, national conservation funding would be decimated.

And with that statement people still delusional enough to say that they are only a "wetland" conservation group have been in the duck blind too long and their brains are waterlogged.

You can't be putting statements like that on your website and not support all firearms, pardon if I've ruffled some feathers although I am not sorry.
 
TSE JR said:
Yes, I get it... 8 years ago, I ####ed up. I since then have acknowledged my mistake and like the previous 12 years, have continued to support the shooting community as a whole.

You don't "get rich" in this industry, so please don't try to paint me as the benevolent mogul. I still work everyday in my business after 20 years.

Fortunately, most in the community have chosen to forgive me, give me another chance and move on. I am grateful for that and I believe I have proven my "worth" to the shooting community 10 fold. I never forget how actions can spiral and also how the "anti's" are waiting for any excuse or opportunity to split us.

Please do not let your dislike for me, divide the community. We've never been under threat like we are now.

Sincerely,

JR
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Good post

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Back on topic.

Only reason why Canadian DU doesnt support firearm ownership is because your average gun owner never put any preasure on them. U.S is a good example.

Times are changing. 20 years i been donating to you idiots and sitting on the side lines is not an option anymore. You want my money, suport the hand that feeds you or f'off.
 
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TSE JR said:
Yes, I get it... 8 years ago, I ####ed up. I since then have acknowledged my mistake and like the previous 12 years, have continued to support the shooting community as a whole.

You don't "get rich" in this industry, so please don't try to paint me as the benevolent mogul. I still work everyday in my business after 20 years.

Fortunately, most in the community have chosen to forgive me, give me another chance and move on. I am grateful for that and I believe I have proven my "worth" to the shooting community 10 fold. I never forget how actions can spiral and also how the "anti's" are waiting for any excuse or opportunity to split us.

Please do not let your dislike for me, divide the community. We've never been under threat like we are now.

Sincerely,

JR
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Takes guts to take ownership in that way. Thanks for your honesty!
 
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