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They're not for wetlands at all. Everywhere around where I live and southern Ontario in general you see their big billboard "another successful ducks unlimited wetlands restoration project" no, all I see is a puddle or a trickle of a drainage ditch with some dead grass growing around it with your name on it. They just buy up land they can get tax return on and put a sign up like they did something. At least delta waterfowl will actually work on a project.

Ha, in BC you only see them selling paintings in grocery stores. Thats it.
 
Was at a local pub today that had 2 items up for DU....

Asked to speak to the boss about their support for DU - was advised to come back tomorrow.... and that yes.... He IS a hunter....

WILL UPDATE !
 
I’m pretty sure DU has a policy not to respond favourably to extortion or intimidation tactics that many on this thread are suggesting be used.
 
I am surprised that as long as you have been in business, that this is news to you.
DU has NEVER done one damn thing to support the firearms industry, or shooters in this country.

Firstly, DU has and does do some great work in the conservation of wetlands. We cannot ignore that. These wetlands help to preserve and increase the waterfowl and therefor by simple extension; hunting areas and species. Because of that and because we have a ton of members / customers that strongly support DU, we have also supported it for the past 20 years. There is a direct correlation. To say they do nothing for us is simplistic.

As to the DU peeps in my area of Calgary: Super salt of the earth people and ALL shooters / hunters. For me this is the saddest part; as they are caught up in a #### storm that they neither started nor want any part of.

However:

The Lieberals have stated that they are looking at the Australian and New Zealand model of banning firearms. As we have seen; what started out as an attack on semi-auto "black guns" quickly encompassed almost all semi-autos, including a lot of shotguns. This in Canada would have a direct impact on the hunting community as (in my experience) the sheer number of waterfowlers using semi-autos has over reached all others (over/under, pumps, side x side, etc).

In my opinion, in this instance, a "neutral" position is not "neutral" in any way. DU could have simply acknowledged the petition and forwarded it "for informational purposes", but instead, they chose to pander and not trigger the Toronto Soccer Mom demographic in hopes of shoring up the left fundraising. Their messaging was disingenuous and, in my opinion, misleading.

As they don't care if we can keep our guns or not, I cannot simply just let this go.

Yes, the bulk of the monies that DU gets is from taxpayers, so our little "protest" won't really make a huge difference, but given there is only so much time, energy and money available for us to spend and offer as support to the community as a whole, it is reasonable and appropriate for us to focus what we do have, towards organizations that align with our needs and beliefs as well.

Simply put: My personal focus has to be on keeping my businesses open and paying my staff. This is achieved by selling guns and ammunition. Any organization that has a policy that detracts from our ability to operate cannot get my support. My 60 staff are my focus, not wetlands in Northern Ontario.

Now is not the time to allow any division in the shooting community. Inclusivity is going to be key for us as a shooting community if we are going to persevere.

Just my 2 cents.

JR
 
I’m pretty sure DU has a policy not to respond favourably to extortion or intimidation tactics that many on this thread are suggesting be used.

I agree and I do not think it is in anyone's best interests to try to intimidate.

We just need to politely decline to give them our support and direct it to organizations that more closely align with our goals and beliefs. I for one will direct my efforts locally to AHEIA and Calgary F&G and nationally to Delta Waterfowl.

JR
 
Thank you for your more reasoned and responsible update on your stance. I still disagree with the financial punishment stance taken toward DU and by extension, hunters but I guess I’m not changing your mind on that one. I do appreciate your comment on inclusivity.
 
In my opinion, in this instance, a "neutral" position is not "neutral" in any way. DU could have simply acknowledged the petition and forwarded it "for informational purposes", but instead, they chose to pander and not trigger the Toronto Soccer Mom demographic in hopes of shoring up the left fundraising. Their messaging was disingenuous and, in my opinion, misleading.

Just my 2 cents.

JR

Agreed JR, agreed!

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Cheers
Jay
 

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I’m pretty sure DU has a policy not to respond favourably to extortion or intimidation tactics that many on this thread are suggesting be used.

It's neither extortion nor intimidation to tell them you will no longer support them financially because of their policies.
 
I just got this exact same canned response letter from the Surrey BC office of Ducks Unlimitted as was posted in the OP
I won't post my response but I sent a video of my firepit and a stack of DU items..... t-shirts , a hoodie, posters, beer cozies and to top it off a poster from a local ducks unlimited event taking place in our town of 100 mile house in the coming weeks :evil:
 
Sounds more like an adult temper tantrum....guys advocating the destruction of wetlands and burning Ducks Unlimited camo and clothing cause DU wont link a worthless petition. No wonder nobody takes this community serious.

Holy smokes, someone with a functioning frontal lobe? Better get out of here quick, they'll call you a gun hating liberal for using common sense around here!
 
Holy smokes, someone with a functioning frontal lobe? Better get out of here quick, they'll call you a gun hating liberal for using common sense around here!

Well you did wish someone lose his guns...thats not exactly gun-loving behavior, so if anyone is responsible for what people think of you, its yourself, not disfunctional frontal lobes.

Also, see post #174.

Youza.
 
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Sounds more like an adult temper tantrum....guys advocating the destruction of wetlands and burning Ducks Unlimited camo and clothing cause DU wont link a worthless petition. No wonder nobody takes this community serious.

Then sell your firearms and leave to go build some marshes and sing kumbaya. You've proven who you are.

Yeah we're advocating for the destruction of wetlands, WAM.
 
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