Update On Ontario Restricted Transfer Times

I bought a restricted off my co worker on Tuesday around 1pm and got the ATT at 10am Wednesday. Does not seem to be an issue in Alberta I feel for you guys in ONT.
 
Chuckbuster said:
Nothing but apply a rubberstamp. The really stupid thing about our system is that once the transfer is "sent to the province" it's already defacto approved by the feds. So sending it to the CFO is just a pointless bureaucratic exercise in obfuscation and delay.
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Is that all they do? I just find that hard to believe. I have NO idea what they do... but if that's it then the 3 people approving transfers in theory should be able to process a week of transfers every day.

That being said I can't imagine what else they are doing considering it already went through the RCMP, both licenses valid... it shouldn't be rocket science

Mush2469 said:
Transfer started April 4.
Received email today from Tenda that was approved and a second email 5 minutes later with canpar tracking number.
9 weeks total from order to ship date.
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My April 9th is creeiping up then..

Still worried this is going to start slipping to 10 weeks, then 11.. and on and on. What motivation do they have to go faster or add more staff, I'm sure they couldn't care less
 
NickVR said:
Guessing it will only get worse unless they somehow start crushing 2 weeks of transfers every week.. If this trend keeps up we are going to be at 3 months waits soon which is insane

Does anyone remember the transfer waits ever being this long for this length of time?
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They got up to 4-5 weeks about 2.5 years ago and then I think ombudsman stepped in and sent some to another province. After that it was 5-10 business days and they would only process transfers on Tuesdays

Was also about 4 weeks precovid
 
NickVR said:
Is that all they do? I just find that hard to believe. I have NO idea what they do... but if that's it then the 3 people approving transfers in theory should be able to process a week of transfers every day.

That being said I can't imagine what else they are doing considering it already went through the RCMP, both licenses valid... it shouldn't be rocket science
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Well, they look for patterns -- someone buying an inordinate amount within a certain timeframe, someone buying multiple units of the same thing or same cailbre, things like that.

That having been said, there's zero reason an entry level programmer cannot write a script for whatever it is they're looking for, and have those transactions automatically flagged for further review. But then again, the Ontario system is still pen and paper lol.... retailers have this ledger they keep all sales records on & for gov't audit purposes. Apparently the government does not yet trust computers. Either that or they're grossly incompetent, one or the other...
 
Buggle said:
Well, they look for patterns -- someone buying an inordinate amount within a certain timeframe, someone buying multiple units of the same thing or same cailbre, things like that.

That having been said, there's zero reason an entry level programmer cannot write a script for whatever it is they're looking for, and have those transactions automatically flagged for further review. But then again, the Ontario system is still pen and paper lol.... retailers have this ledger they keep all sales records on & for gov't audit purposes. Apparently the government does not yet trust computers. Either that or they're grossly incompetent, one or the other...
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Well hopefully the flintlock pistol I bought doesn't freak them out
 
I was just googling for some information, then I saw the RCMP page about "Registration" and "Verification" (links below). What caught my eye is that apparently there is a difference if a firearm is being registered for the first time or not. That got me thinking---could it be that "previously owned" firearms are already "verified" and there is less work to do by CFO to approve a transfer, while new firearms require extra steps and take longer? Then again, what constitutes "new"---are brand new guns that are sold in a store already "verified" and "registered" to the business itself, or not. Just wondering if anyone has noticed some pattern along those lines, maybe it takes less time to get a used restricted approved than a new one.

Here are the two links:

https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/firearms/registration

https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/firearms/verification
 
corsara said:
I was just googling for some information, then I saw the RCMP page about "Registration" and "Verification" (links below). What caught my eye is that apparently there is a difference if a firearm is being registered for the first time or not. That got me thinking---could it be that "previously owned" firearms are already "verified" and there is less work to do by CFO to approve a transfer, while new firearms require extra steps and take longer? Then again, what constitutes "new"---are brand new guns that are sold in a store already "verified" and "registered" to the business itself, or not. Just wondering if anyone has noticed some pattern along those lines, maybe it takes less time to get a used restricted approved than a new one.

Here are the two links:

https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/firearms/registration

https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/firearms/verification
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Good theory, but no.
Our friends out West have made purchases from ON dealers and received transfer approvals within 24hrs.
 
corsara said:
I was just googling for some information, then I saw the RCMP page about "Registration" and "Verification" (links below). What caught my eye is that apparently there is a difference if a firearm is being registered for the first time or not. That got me thinking---could it be that "previously owned" firearms are already "verified" and there is less work to do by CFO to approve a transfer, while new firearms require extra steps and take longer? Then again, what constitutes "new"---are brand new guns that are sold in a store already "verified" and "registered" to the business itself, or not. Just wondering if anyone has noticed some pattern along those lines, maybe it takes less time to get a used restricted approved than a new one.

Here are the two links:

https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/firearms/registration

https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/firearms/verification
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It’s actually the other way around. Retail transfer time to Ontario is a few days faster because they want to prioritize businesses and people’s livelihoods. When you can the CFP for an update for processing time, they give you two dates, one for commercial transfers and one for private, and the private one is always a few days more than the commercial one.
 
I made the mistake of selling my .22 pistol before getting the new replacement. My favorite plinking caliber.

Sold it to a fellow in BC. He got his transfer April 9th within 24hrs.
My purchase also April 9. Here I am waiting like a fool 8.5 weeks later
 
Don't you guys just despise what this province has become? 8.5 weeks is a disgrace in every way. They strip us of our property, they intentionally slow down transfers.. pathetic.
 
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