The T97 Thread!

Ah that's such a bummer!!! Why isn't he making it anymore, has anybody found out? The T97 is really quite popular and not prohibited, i don't know why he would stop unless the Gen 4 comes with an updated lower that makes it redundant, but i haven't heard anything about that. If he never intends on making it again it would be great if he sold the design to someone who will, or hell even open source it so anyone can.
 
Ah that's such a bummer!!! Why isn't he making it anymore, has anybody found out? The T97 is really quite popular and not prohibited, i don't know why he would stop unless the Gen 4 comes with an updated lower that makes it redundant, but i haven't heard anything about that. If he never intends on making it again it would be great if he sold the design to someone who will, or hell even open source it so anyone can.

I’m not so sure, I haven’t talked to them directly. Just what I’ve heard.

I wish they continued with the accessories too... now I have nearly pointless screw holes on my lowers lol.
 
I’m not so sure, I haven’t talked to them directly. Just what I’ve heard.

I wish they continued with the accessories too... now I have nearly pointless screw holes on my lowers lol.

I spoke to him recently and he stated that it's too risky right now with the political landscape.
 
So the stock one that come with it works pretty well. If anything I find the weight of my right hand against the mag prevents it from dropping. Just going to take time getting used with the 30 round mags.

Other ones I have tried
- stock 5 round mag from Windham Weaponry Inc. is like butter. Feels better than the stock one.
- CPD (c products) pistol mag (orange followers) won't fit into the mag well. I try and it's really tight. I tried two different ones and same result.

In all instances I haven't been able to try it with ammo or at the range.

So just a quick update.. After looking a little closer to why a pistol mag wouldn't fit into my G3 T97 I was able to figure out what the issue was

I tried a CPD (c products) Lar-15 mag and I was able to get it to go however it was extremely tight. So much so, I had to use a vice to pull out the mag. I examined the marking on the mag and inside the mag well and was able to determine the root of the problem. The spine of the mag is out of spec and rubs against the "rails" in the magwell. Using my vice I applied pressure to the sides of the spine to get it back to spec and now it's smooth as butter :)

Some tips..

1. Don't apply to much pressure to the spine. The amount you need to adjust is not measurable by the human eye or a measuring tape. It's probably a 1mm adjustment from both sides
2. Go slow.. Squeeze, try to insert into magwell and if it's still tight repeat.
3. Let the base plate hang out on one end to avoid any damage to it
4. Apply downward pressure with the palm of your hand as you tighten the vice, this will ensure it doesn't pop-out and pressure is evenly applied.

hope this helps!
 
Troy battlemags fit beautifully in the T97. Even drops free on an empty mag!

can you specify which generation Type 97.

Also the 10 round Troy battle mags I believe are not legal in Canada. The only ones I see for sale in Canada are pinned to 5 rounds. Lockhart tactical sells them and they specifically mention that the 10 round mags are not sold in canada and are considered illegal.
 
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So just a quick update.. After looking a little closer to why a pistol mag wouldn't fit into my G3 T97 I was able to figure out what the issue was

I tried a CPD (c products) Lar-15 mag and I was able to get it to go however it was extremely tight. So much so, I had to use a vice to pull out the mag. I examined the marking on the mag and inside the mag well and was able to determine the root of the problem. The spine of the mag is out of spec and rubs against the "rails" in the magwell. Using my vice I applied pressure to the sides of the spine to get it back to spec and now it's smooth as butter :)

Some tips..

1. Don't apply to much pressure to the spine. The amount you need to adjust is not measurable by the human eye or a measuring tape. It's probably a 1mm adjustment from both sides
2. Go slow.. Squeeze, try to insert into magwell and if it's still tight repeat.
3. Let the base plate hang out on one end to avoid any damage to it
4. Apply downward pressure with the palm of your hand as you tighten the vice, this will ensure it doesn't pop-out and pressure is evenly applied.

hope this helps!


I did the same, with CPD mags on a Gen 2, with the same results. I sold the rifle, kept the mags, still working great with the new rifle.

Jim
 
No idea who actually did it. I just brought it into Calgary shooting center. They did it in a lathe though with the barrel out. 0.0625” over 1/2” sounds like a lot to me if the OD of 1/2-28 thread is actually a half inch....

I wouldn’t ram a die into it with that much excess myself. But I don’t know really.

Did you take off the brake yourself?
 
I had folks from TNA remove the pinned flash hider and thread the barrel for me. It was only 60$, but they didn't do a great job at it. Threads they cut are kinda loose, and I had to ghetto rig it with half shims to get new muzzle device to align with the bore properly. It was a pain in the 6, and using a big brake is out of the question. Had to settle on A2, which is still nicer than default device, but not exactly what I wanted.

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I had folks from TNA remove the pinned flash hider and thread the barrel for me. It was only 60$, but they didn't do a great job at it. Threads they cut are kinda loose, and I had to ghetto rig it with half shims to get new muzzle device to align with the bore properly. It was a pain in the 6, and using a big brake is out of the question. Had to settle on A2, which is still nicer than default device, but not exactly what I wanted.

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Your picture shows a jam nut, not shims. With that set-up, thread on the jam nut, thread on the muzzle device and clock it where you want it. Then back out the jam nut till it snugs up tight to the muzzle device. Easiest way to get it done in my opinion. I'm not sure I am understanding where you are having the problem, no shims should be required with the setup I see. No offense intended, I may be mis-understanding the problem.

Jim
 
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