JARD J180 , new NR but no distributors carry em ?

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https://jardinc.com/JARD-J180_p_171.html

JARD, of tactical 2x4 fame seems to have come up with a pretty novel item, AR18 recoil system and BCG but using a DI gas system.

Long story short, this thing has a NR FRT and is available, does anyone know if anyone is importing these yet or would we need to import our own via IRG ?
 
https://jardinc.com/JARD-J180_p_171.html

JARD, of tactical 2x4 fame seems to have come up with a pretty novel item, AR18 recoil system and BCG but using a DI gas system.

Long story short, this thing has a NR FRT and is available, does anyone know if anyone is importing these yet or would we need to import our own via IRG ?

Looks doable. Much better than the 3d printed crap in canada. I'll look more into it.
 
https://jardinc.com/JARD-J180_p_171.html

JARD, of tactical 2x4 fame seems to have come up with a pretty novel item, AR18 recoil system and BCG but using a DI gas system.

Long story short, this thing has a NR FRT and is available, does anyone know if anyone is importing these yet or would we need to import our own via IRG ?

Looks like ellwood epps could import them. I saw them selling jard rifles in 9mm awhile ago.
 
I messaged the site admin asking if any site sponsor was going to bring them in, as I didn't want to steel their thunder. I will post more of what I've learned elsewhere if the admins say it is ok. In the past, Westrifle and Frontier Firearms have carried the JARD J68 9mm Bullpup (the 2x4 mentioned above, I believe), according to a forum search. They may be good candidates to bring the J180 in, given their past relationship with JARD, but we shall see.
 
Looks like the J48 that Wanstalls bought in a few years ago.
Now that was a piece of crap..lol
 
Looks like the J48 that Wanstalls bought in a few years ago.
Now that was a piece of crap..lol

I'll pay 1500 for made in america 556. Made in canada was a mistake. Look at that ugly slanted receiver our 180s have. I bet these 1s are more reliable as well and wont snap after 200 rounds.
 
Ok, enough chatter on here, I don't feel like I'm talking out of school if a site sponsor is about to bring them in. What may be of more interest then the complete rifle for people with AR-15s sitting in prohibited lockup is www.jardinc.com/j180-builder-kit.html the JARD J180 Builder Kit

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JARDInc.com said:
Pair up your own AR mil spec barrel and furniture with our J180 builder kit!
AR grip, barrel, forearm, and stock are NOT included with this kit.

.378 Rim Dia. X .125 Bolt Face Depth

.223 / 5.56
.204 Ruger
.350 Legend
.300 Blackout

.441 Rim Dia. X .125 Bolt Face Depth

6.5 Grendel (Type 1)
6 mm ARL
7.62 X 39

Reminiscent of the AR-180 design, the JARD J180 utilizes a direct impingement gas system with a guide rod/recoil spring system housed completely within the upper receiver. However, it features milled aircraft grade aluminum upper and lower receivers for greater rigidity. It also comes standard with a JARD ARJ trigger system for a smooth, crisp trigger pull. Takedown is simple (see video above) making cleaning and rifle maintenance very easy.

Any AR mil spec barrel will work in with this builder kit
Any AR mil spec furniture will work with this builder kit
Semi-Automatic, Direct Impingement Gas System
Rotating, Locking Bolt
Recoil System Housed Completely within Upper Receiver
Right Side Charging and Ejection
Compatible with Mil-Spec AR magazines, grips, stocks, and trigger systems

Canada Non-Restrictive FRT #195699

The builder kit looks like it includes all required proprietary parts, unlike with the separate parts kits required for the WX-MCR receivers. It uses a direct impingement instead of a piston in concert with the dual recoil spring/rail system, and thus it uses a gas tube, so there is no requirement for the handguard height to accommodate a gas piston. So, similar to the case with an SBI LPC or MRA Renegade, the handguard from a prohibited AR-15 could be used, along with the barrel, stock, buffer tube, pistol grip, and magazines. It comes with its own trigger, but says its compatible with mil-spec triggers. Unlike the manual action bolt action builds, these would require the gas tube, since they would be semi-automatic firearms when completed.

Below is a video of the complete firearm, followed by the basic takedown. The separation plane is more similar to the SBI LPC and MRA Renegade then the WK or MCR, having the buffer tube socket on the upper. The guide rods pop out using small panel, released using a standard looking captured takedown pin. The bolt assemble pops out in a manner similar to the LPC, out the bottom, without having to remove the buffer tube. There is no buffer spring, so a buffer tube socket folding stock adapter, like the one sold by TNA for the WK, should work with this firearm.

JARD Youtube Channel said:

I expect this may need more cleaning then the WK or MCR, since gas is fed back into the main receiver directly. The piston is a known failure point for some WKs, but removing the piston entirely and using direct impingement in concert with guide rods and internal springs, rather then the longer play of a buffer tube spring in an AR-15 may introduce unknown additional issues. Still, it will be interesting to see how well it works, if someone actually imports it into Canada. Frankly, I consider it a small miracle this made its way through the lab and got an FRT entry. I could see BCL, Spectre or MRA making a version, if its successful, and no one drops the hammer on 180 based designs, but I guess we will see.
 
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Looks like the J48 that Wanstalls bought in a few years ago.
Now that was a piece of crap..lol

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, mostly positive, with some pickiness on ammo, and a malfunction on aluminum cased ammo similar to what Adriel the Hunting Gear Guy experienced with the FX9 with aluminum ammo. With such a novel design, probably best to judge the J180 on is own merits and faults, if and when it arrives in-country.
 
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Blueline was dealing with Jard, but they have dropped them as far as I know..... hard to say for sure as Blueline seems to be MIA for the last year or so?
 
I'm a bit surprised this is the only comment about their previous .223/5.56 semi so far.....with the giant disaster those turned out to be has everyone really forgotten the J-48's already?

JARD thinks the thirsty .223 market is willing to give a second chance to them on a novel, non-restricted design. Whether this is better or worse their old J48 or Canadian-made 180 variants remain to be seen.
 
Just a note, I am not affiliated with JARD or any Canadian firearms industry employer; I'm just an enthusiast when it comes to any new black or red rifle design available to Canadians, be they manual action or semi-automatic in nature.
 
I'll pay 1500 for made in america 556. Made in canada was a mistake. Look at that ugly slanted receiver our 180s have. I bet these 1s are more reliable as well and wont snap after 200 rounds.

You never owned the J48 did you? I bet you would have a different outlook if you did.
 
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