Black Creek Labs AR180 based rifle SVR2 Siberian approved for Non restricted FRT
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Just a description so far. A well secured gas block, to prevent rotation, and mid-length piston, made of two parts to allow flexing instead of snapping and no spring running along the piston, so it will have no necking down to a thinner portion as a weak point. I've suggested to them on Instagram they should do a Forgotten Weapons style tear down, but so far no response.
Along with the Lynx, the R18 and Siberian both share the ability to use the Zhukov stock, with the Zhukov being the default Siberian stock. SBI went with a swappable rear piece for the Zhukov on the Lynx, whereas BCL has gone with the a Zhukov/Yugo AK to 1913 adapter for the Siberian. Not sure what Sterling/TSE went with on the R18. I wonder if BCL and possibly Sterling/TSE went with a Haga 1913 to Zhukov adapter, or if they used an in-house adapter?
Looks like they are incoming, https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cnz9DXSg49A/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link!
FYI, BCL confirmed on Instagram their Zhukov to 1913 adapter is made in-house, though they didn't say if they would sell it separately.
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FYI, BCL confirmed on Instagram their Zhukov to 1913 adapter is made in-house, though they didn't say if they would sell it separately.
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The Bolt in the R18 isn't made by BCL?
Also the barrel, mag release, and both bolt releases on the R18 all scream of BCL design cues and finish. You mean to tell me none of these were sourced through BCL or made in the same facilities where BCL components are produced?
I'm not asking these questions in an attempt to bring the R18 down. It is a well-designed rifle and is equally well finished in my opinion, definitely the most refined 180 Canada has seen so far and I think the value for dollar spent is reasonable considering the marketplace, especially now that it has had some time to prove itself and grow through a couple small issues. That being said I immediately picked up on the latter few things mentioned as being extremely similar in both design aspects and finish to BCL products.
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Sure would be nice to see the gas system. I guess one of the beta testers will have to post it instead.
Personally, I am far more interested in seeing how they reconfigured the AR180 system to fit within the reduced dimensions of that Upper Receiver. Did they go to a single Guide/Operating Rod and Spring? Of did they just shrink everything down dimensionally?
As I recall, BCL mentioned that they had no plans on producing additional models/variants until C-21 is sorted out. So I imagine different colours are off the table for now.
Anyway it's nice to see them finally shipping out, although the lack of technical info is pretty concerning. As much as I'd like to order one, I think I'll wait for a braver soul to tear one down and make a preliminary report.
Anyway it's nice to see them finally shipping out, although the lack of technical info is pretty concerning. As much as I'd like to order one, I think I'll wait for a braver soul to tear one down and make a preliminary report.
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I'm glad they made that decision. I hate buffer tubes on the back of piston rifles.
Interesting. I want the BCL. haha
Hey JR, you gonna make aftermarket folding charging handle for MK2?
North Sylva has updated their Instagram page with some Siberian pictures, https://www.instagram.com/northsylva/:
From the look at the pictures, I'd say it won't eject properly if fired fully folded, but that's more of a novelty then anything, and it will still fold for transport nicely. If you really wanted to fire folded, the stock attaches via 1913, so you could probably find another folding 1913 stock that won't impede the port.
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From the look at the pictures, I'd say it won't eject properly if fired fully folded, but that's more of a novelty then anything, and it will still fold for transport nicely. If you really wanted to fire folded, the stock attaches via 1913, so you could probably find another folding 1913 stock that won't impede the port.
It looks like the non-reciprocating charge handle is far enough forward that you might be able to fold the stock to the left after charging the rifle. Midwest Industries/Manticore Arms and B5 systems have 180ish 1913 type stocks that might work
Brownells house brand made by B5
M.I/M.A.
Victory Ridge is going to have a Siberian sample in the store as of today, https://www.instagram.com/p/CoGHHSLLoVu/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link .
It would be great if someone local to the store could go in, let us know their impressions from handling the rifle, and maybe take some pictures of the secured gas block, two part piston, BCG, and dual recoil springs/ guide rods, and then post here.
It would be great if someone local to the store could go in, let us know their impressions from handling the rifle, and maybe take some pictures of the secured gas block, two part piston, BCG, and dual recoil springs/ guide rods, and then post here.
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