Used by other CFET Testers. as a part of the same test, with every failure documented. This is not some random Used Siberian picked up from ####### or the EE and run through testing, it was brand new when CFET got hands on it and started the testing. Same as the WK181 we tested previously.
BCL Siberian 1000 round range session - awful results
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Used by other CFET Testers. as a part of the same test, with every failure documented. This is not some random Used Siberian picked up from ####### or the EE and run through testing, it was brand new when CFET got hands on it and started the testing. Same as the WK181 we tested previously.
I might not fully agree with methods of testing and I find the format of testing and of video itself very strange (maybe because I'm not of youngest generation), but I think it was useful testing of what should be tested - regular purchased rifle. And I am thankful to those guys for doing these tests. Noone tested better, noone provided better information. They did it with good intentions of sharing their experience. Is it not the purpose of our communication on this forum? Of course there were certain design flaws that were visible with first pics , and some ppl predicted some things... but good to see it was tested.
Bottom line is BCL = NEA.
I have personal experience with their AR15s, 102s and the Bison.
The only constant with their product is consistent poor quality and poor quality control.
Sure there are probably a few out there that work ok, and if you are handy with diagnosis and parts replacement, you could probably make it & keep it running, but by and large these things are plagued with higher than normal potential for problems.
Earlier this year I threw my hat in the ring to test this for Service Rifle shooting and after initial contact, the CFET folks went radio silent.
I'm glad they did, as wasting days with this turd on the range would have been beyond frustrating.
I have personal experience with their AR15s, 102s and the Bison.
The only constant with their product is consistent poor quality and poor quality control.
Sure there are probably a few out there that work ok, and if you are handy with diagnosis and parts replacement, you could probably make it & keep it running, but by and large these things are plagued with higher than normal potential for problems.
Earlier this year I threw my hat in the ring to test this for Service Rifle shooting and after initial contact, the CFET folks went radio silent.
I'm glad they did, as wasting days with this turd on the range would have been beyond frustrating.
It's just a super common way of shooting ARs, especially in the prone. One more point of support is just quite a bit more stable than just your elbows. I get that some rifles can't be mag-podded (M14s, etc) but you can do it with zero issues with an AR so it would be reasonable to think the same held true for a rifle that essentially has an AR magwell and mag catch and uses AR mags. And because tone is generally hard to read in written form, I wasn't trolling or asking a leading question, just was genuinely curious as I've yet to find someone who can mag-pod a Siberian without inducing failures. Leads me to believe it's a design issue and not a one off on the few rifles I've tried and few shooters I've spoken with.
Weird, never heard of this 'CFET' until like 2 days ago, so I just googled it, no website, nothing really. looks like its just some willy-nilly group of people that all know each other somehow through industry/military/etc on reddit, 'group buying' a firearm and passing it around, not some actual organization... Some look like they have the same or similar usernames as 'new' CGN users, and looks like there is a CFET user right on here... here is the previous dirt test.. https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/2393092-CFET-BCL-Siberian-Dirt-Test?p=19776259#post19776259
I also saw this link about the 10,000 round test, scrolled through to the bottom comment that stated the the rifle in this video was at 9400 rounds and that looks to be posted 3 months ago...
https://www.reddit.com/r/canadaguns/comments/13eqvdy/bcl_siberian_cfet_10000_round_test_has_begun/
Run the same test on the new CZ, I saw someone with a stoppage at the range the other day... probably a crappy magazine, or bad ammo.. May as well run a Tavor, SL8, B&T, FN, Kelteck, M+M etc with the same 'controlled test' .Add the Benelli R1s and Browning BARs too.
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Even if it was some "willy nilly group", It's still independent testing done on people's own dime and time with no outside influence. The Hunting Gear Guy has posted the results of the 181 test on his website. There's also a Patreon that gives people access to the results, as well as links on other social media platforms. I have yet to see anyone else doing something like this in Canada. Feel free to correct me with sources.
As for that reddit comment, I'll side with you on the confusing part. Seeing that the comment in question was posted a little over 3 months ago (June-ish) and that the WK 181 10k Round report came out on July 18th, it's safe to say that there was confusion on posts there. The BCL Siberian in question didn't arrive in the hands of the first CFET tester until early August.
As for all those other firearms, all of them aren't Canadian made. The purpose of the group is to test the endurance of Canadian made firearms. All of the firearms listed above are for the most part well proven rifles that have searchable results on how well they endure (with M+M being the exception).
Here's the WK 181 10k report so you can learn more and have a better scope of it all
https://www.huntinggearguy.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/WK181-10000-Round-Full-Review.pdf
Is Colt on the list? it's Canadian made in Kitchener ON. Or I know its not Canadian made, but how about a real AR-180b...
Don't try to piggy back off Adriel, he volunteers in Canadian shooting clinics and has very good open reviews of firearms on social media for a few years now, which you seem to be failing at starting. I would try and be less 'cringe' as you seem to be trying to imitate the 'matty matheson' cooking show.
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Find me a Colt firearm that is obtainable to the Canadian public right now and I'm pretty sure it would make it on the "to test" list
That will come out in the CFET report on the gun in the near future
