9.3x62

With your 6.5x55, 30-06 and 9.3x62 you have a nice 3 rifle battery capable of taking any game on the planet (where legal).
While your 30-06 is definitely capable of taking moose and elk at reasonable hunting distances, the edge with the 9.3 would be the additional energy and penetration for those larger subspecies of these animals (Alaska-Yukon moose), and where shot presentations, may be less than ideal (e.g. quartering to) where more heavy bone may be encountered trying to get that bullet into the vitals for a quick, clean kill. Or when the bullet may not have hit the animal as accurately as intended.
Best of luck finding the ammo or handload that your rifle shoots best, and may you have plenty of great adventures with it!

I have a LH Sako 85 Hunter in 9.3x62 and am using the Nosler factory 250 gr AccuBond ammo in it so far. I haven't chronied this ammo, but it is spec'd at 2,550 fps, and 3609 ft.lbs of energy. Zeroed for 200 yards, it is 2.3" high @ 100 yards and 9.3" low at 300 yards. It retains enough velocity for reliable expansion to 400 yards,where it is 36.7" low and still retaining 1932 fps and 2072 ft.lbs of energy. (still legal for bison in BC at this range)
The rifle is producing 0.674" groups at 100 yards with this ammo. (the Norma Alaskan 285 gr ammo is producing groups of 1.026", and the Lapua Mega 285 gr ammo is producing 1.406" groups @ 100 yards, in my rifle.)
I have taken a young bull moose at 178 yards. Quartering to, I aimed for the high shoulder shot to keep it from heading into the muskeg on one side, or back into the deep ravine where it had come out of on the other. The shot hit the spine and penetrated approx. 2 feet of heavy bone, and had retained a large percentage of its original weight, and expanded approx. 2 times its original diameter (sorry, I cannot locate my data for this a exact info at the moment).
As I will be using this rifle predominately for moose, bear and bison, I feel that the 250 gr bullet will be plenty sufficient for the duty I am asking of it, and do not feel the need for the heavier bullet weight. And since it shoots this load better, I am happy to stick to this bullet.
Perhaps I will get a chance to take it to Africa for eland and cape buffalo, someday. Or Alaska for brown bear...

I plan on trying Re-15, IMR 4064 and Varget in working up handloads with this bullet, to the same velocity specs, and see if I can duplicate, or better, the accuracy in my rifle.

My rifle is scoped with a Kahles Helia C 1.5-6x42 in Optiloc rings and bases and weighs 8 lbs 15 oz. with a loaded magazine (5 rounds).
Felt recoil is roughly at 30-32 ft. lbs. As described above, it is more of a push than a sharp smack.
 
With your 6.5x55, 30-06 and 9.3x62 you have a nice 3 rifle battery capable of taking any game on the planet (where legal).
While your 30-06 is definitely capable of taking moose and elk at reasonable hunting distances, the edge with the 9.3 would be the additional energy and penetration for those larger subspecies of these animals (Alaska-Yukon moose), and where shot presentations, may be less than ideal (e.g. quartering to) where more heavy bone may be encountered trying to get that bullet into the vitals for a quick, clean kill. Or when the bullet may not have hit the animal as accurately as intended.
Best of luck finding the ammo or handload that your rifle shoots best, and may you have plenty of great adventures with it!

I have a LH Sako 85 Hunter in 9.3x62 and am using the Nosler factory 250 gr AccuBond ammo in it so far. I haven't chronied this ammo, but it is spec'd at 2,550 fps, and 3609 ft.lbs of energy. Zeroed for 200 yards, it is 2.3" high @ 100 yards and 9.3" low at 300 yards. It retains enough velocity for reliable expansion to 400 yards,where it is 36.7" low and still retaining 1932 fps and 2072 ft.lbs of energy. (still legal for bison in BC at this range)
The rifle is producing 0.674" groups at 100 yards with this ammo. (the Norma Alaskan 285 gr ammo is producing groups of 1.026", and the Lapua Mega 285 gr ammo is producing 1.406" groups @ 100 yards, in my rifle.)
I have taken a young bull moose at 178 yards. Quartering to, I aimed for the high shoulder shot to keep it from heading into the muskeg on one side, or back into the deep ravine where it had come out of on the other. The shot hit the spine and penetrated approx. 2 feet of heavy bone, and had retained a large percentage of its original weight, and expanded approx. 2 times its original diameter (sorry, I cannot locate my data for this a exact info at the moment).
As I will be using this rifle predominately for moose, bear and bison, I feel that the 250 gr bullet will be plenty sufficient for the duty I am asking of it, and do not feel the need for the heavier bullet weight. And since it shoots this load better, I am happy to stick to this bullet.
Perhaps I will get a chance to take it to Africa for eland and cape buffalo, someday. Or Alaska for brown bear...

I plan on trying Re-15, IMR 4064 and Varget in working up handloads with this bullet, to the same velocity specs, and see if I can duplicate, or better, the accuracy in my rifle.

My rifle is scoped with a Kahles Helia C 1.5-6x42 in Optiloc rings and bases and weighs 8 lbs 15 oz. with a loaded magazine (5 rounds).
Felt recoil is roughly at 30-32 ft. lbs. As described above, it is more of a push than a sharp smack.
30-32ft/lbs sounded high to me. Checked chuck hawks recoil table that lists 250’s @ 2450 in 8.5lb rifle at 25.7 ft/lbs
 
30-32ft/lbs sounded high to me. Checked chuck hawks recoil table that lists 250’s @ 2450 in 8.5lb rifle at 25.7 ft/lbs
I used an online recoil calculator (ShootersCalculator) and powder charges of 62.5 gr of Re-15 in my rifle for 2567 fps with the 250 gr bullet and it said 32.3 ft. lbs. And 58.5 gr of Varget for 2500 fps gives 29.8 ft.lbs. It uses rifle weight, bullet weight and velocity, as well as the powder charge to perform its calculations.
As Nosler does not specify the powder or charge for their 250 gr ammunition, it would be safe to think that the 30 to 32 ft. lbs of felt recoil would provide felt recoil in a 9 lb scoped rifle.

Does Chuck Hawkes state what the charge is and for which powder, for the 250 gr ammo he used in that 8.5 lb rifle? Might explain the variance in the felt recoil numbers...
 
Obviously my go to hammer rifle and fav:

2002 made model T3 Hunter 9.3x62 22" brl

(Currently topped with a Leupold VX 3HD 1.5x5x20 CDS, started with a V1 2x7 for many yrs)

Was not hard to load for - minor play, pretty well max loads/Nosler Data 250 ABs + 286 NPs, 4320 and 15.

(well used LW McMillan stock for hunting, premium + factory wood stock otherwise)

Then, I still have a real beauty original condition blued + stocked Husqvarna Vapenfabriks A.B. Kal 9.3x62 1945 Model 96 Commercial (645) solid wall with a Lyman PS (Baribal would know exactly lol), just a silly old accurate shooter ...

Summary: both a Pleasure to Shoot :0) - old and very spoiled Alberta + Sask moose + elk Hunter
 

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I used an online recoil calculator (ShootersCalculator) and powder charges of 62.5 gr of Re-15 in my rifle for 2567 fps with the 250 gr bullet and it said 32.3 ft. lbs. And 58.5 gr of Varget for 2500 fps gives 29.8 ft.lbs. It uses rifle weight, bullet weight and velocity, as well as the powder charge to perform its calculations.
As Nosler does not specify the powder or charge for their 250 gr ammunition, it would be safe to think that the 30 to 32 ft. lbs of felt recoil would provide felt recoil in a 9 lb scoped rifle.

Does Chuck Hawkes state what the charge is and for which powder, for the 250 gr ammo he used in that 8.5 lb rifle? Might explain the variance in the felt recoil numbers...
It does not. Just shows bullet weight, velocity, rifle weight, felt recoil and recoil velocities.
 
It does not. Just shows bullet weight, velocity, rifle weight, felt recoil and recoil velocities.

I use an online calculator as well, and CH chart is way off.
30-32ft/lbs sounded high to me. Checked chuck hawks recoil table that lists 250’s @ 2450 in 8.5lb rifle at 25.7 ft/lbs

Yeah, that table is pretty low.

Have to account for the powder, as it makes a pretty big difference.

Velocity is likewise low for a 250 out of a 9.3x62. Sounds more like 9.3x57 numbers. With the slightly smaller case it'd take a smaller charge of powder to get there and maybe a slightly quicker burning powder. 2600-ish fps would be more in the ballpark for 9.3x62 load.

I have a couple rifles, and the one I hunt with is 6.7 lbs, and around 8 lbs with a
2-7x scope mounted.

With full power hand loads it's generating 40.5 ft/lbs of recoil. I'll probably back it off by about a grain of powder. Without the scope it'd be 48.4 lbs. 40 is invigorating enough for me off the bench with an old recoil pad. I'll probably upgrade it one of these days, but standing or off a casual rest, it's not bad.
 
A 250 gr. loaded to 2600 fps I estimate to be about 35 ft/lbs thump on the shooter's end with 64 grains powder and 8.5 lbs. of rifle/scope.

Not sure where people get that this cartridge or that cartridge is a "push" while another has "sharp" recoil. You can load up all different combos of big bullets at lower velocity, or lighter bullets at high velocity and big cases of powder and recoil is recoil. Same kind of impulse depending on rifle weight.
 
One nice thing about many of the used European 9.3 x 62 rifles now coming into Canada is that their bore conditions are usually very good, much better than their worn exterior conditions might suggest. Bigger-bore rifles don't get fired as often as smaller bores. (In contrast to the pristine exteriors of many smaller caliber target/varmint rifles that have their bores completely shot out.)
 
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One nice thing about many of the used European 9.3 x 62 rifles now coming into Canada is that the bore conditions are usually very good, much better than their worn exterior conditions might suggest. This is obviously because the bigger-bore rifles don't get fired as often as smaller bores. (The opposite example is the pristine exterior condition of many smaller caliber target/varmint rifles with their bores completely shot out.)

And it's not a barrel burner to start with. And Swedish barrels I believe last very well.
 
never before thought "I should get a 9.3x62" but after perusing this thread for a few weeks and continually scrolling InterSurplus, I seem to be considering it. I have no "need" for one because as noted above, it's a little overkill for North American game, but maybe it would just be a fun range toy. Best check to see what room I have available in the safe....
 
A 250 gr. loaded to 2600 fps I estimate to be about 35 ft/lbs thump on the shooter's end with 64 grains powder and 8.5 lbs. of rifle/scope.

Not sure where people get that this cartridge or that cartridge is a "push" while another has "sharp" recoil. You can load up all different combos of big bullets at lower velocity, or lighter bullets at high velocity and big cases of powder and recoil is recoil. Same kind of impulse depending on rifle weight.
While I do agree that CH's recoil for the 9.3 is understated by quite a bit, recoil pulse/velocity is really a thing whether you personally notice it or not. I'm mostly too stupid to be worried much about recoil within reason, but things get punchy real quick with heavy bullets trying to go fast IMHO.
 
never before thought "I should get a 9.3x62" but after perusing this thread for a few weeks and continually scrolling InterSurplus, I seem to be considering it. I have no "need" for one because as noted above, it's a little overkill for North American game, but maybe it would just be a fun range toy. Best check to see what room I have available in the safe....
You would be surprised at how polyvalent is the 9.3x62 and how little meat lost you will get on game taken down!
I don’t know what is your most hunted game for you but even on whitetail dear it wouldn’t be overkill, no more than a 30-06, 7mm rem mag or 300 win mag and the likes!
Give it a try!
 
A 250 gr. loaded to 2600 fps I estimate to be about 35 ft/lbs thump on the shooter's end with 64 grains powder and 8.5 lbs. of rifle/scope.

Not sure where people get that this cartridge or that cartridge is a "push" while another has "sharp" recoil. You can load up all different combos of big bullets at lower velocity, or lighter bullets at high velocity and big cases of powder and recoil is recoil. Same kind of impulse depending on rifle weight.
I think it has all to do with stock ergonomics and style, I have rifles that are light that seems to deliver recoil better than some heavier rifles. Same with calibers, I have some bigger pushier rounds that seems to be more manageable than some less pushy rounds just because the stock design is better and or fit me better!
 
While I do agree that CH's recoil for the 9.3 is understated by quite a bit, recoil pulse/velocity is really a thing whether you personally notice it or not. I'm mostly too stupid to be worried much about recoil within reason, but things get punchy real quick with heavy bullets trying to go fast IMHO.

I didn't say recoil velocity wasn't a thing. But I believe some people misunderstand it, and attribute bigger case magnums as having a different kind of recoil.

Recoil is recoil, and whether you get 40 lbs with a lighter bullet, big powder charge and 8 pound rifle, or 40 pounds with a big, heavy bullet going a bit slower with an 8 pound rifle, it's going to come back the same.

Felt recoil can change with stock shape, dimensions and recoil pads, but the numbers stay the same.
 
I think it has all to do with stock ergonomics and style, I have rifles that are light that seems to deliver recoil better than some heavier rifles. Same with calibers, I have some bigger pushier rounds that seems to be more manageable than some less pushy rounds just because the stock design is better and or fit me better!

For sure ergonomics make a difference in the way recoil is perceived.
 
While I do agree that CH's recoil for the 9.3 is understated by quite a bit, recoil pulse/velocity is really a thing whether you personally notice it or not. I'm mostly too stupid to be worried much about recoil within reason, but things get punchy real quick with heavy bullets trying to go fast IMHO.
Agreed. My 9.3x62 certainly has recoil, but I'd rather shoot it than a 300WM. I'm not blessed with a robust figure, and those screaming magnums hurt me more than the 9.3 or 45-70 ever did (and I didn't tame down loads). Well before I was part of this forum or knowledgeable about recoil impulse and whatnot, I concluded that there was a discernable difference between hard punching magnums and the slow shoving big bores. My buddy talks of how his 450 Ackley is actually more pleasant to shoot than his 30-06, but recoil tables won't agree.
 
Agreed. My 9.3x62 certainly has recoil, but I'd rather shoot it than a 300WM. I'm not blessed with a robust figure, and those screaming magnums hurt me more than the 9.3 or 45-70 ever did (and I didn't tame down loads). Well before I was part of this forum or knowledgeable about recoil impulse and whatnot, I concluded that there was a discernable difference between hard punching magnums and the slow shoving big bores. My buddy talks of how his 450 Ackley is actually more pleasant to shoot than his 30-06, but recoil tables won't agree.
I should add that I do agree ergonomics play a large part. However, my limited experiences with the 300wm was with modern, heavy rifles with quality pads. The old 9.3 Husky I have and the 45/70 Marlin guide gun were both more pleasant. They both likely shoved me further, but felt more pleasant. Perhaps it is all subjective haha!
 
I haven't spent a lot of time with the 9.3 x 62 out in the wild - but I did drop a medium sized Whitetail at about 115 yards with the 286 PPU ammo. It dropped immediately on the spot - and meat damage wasn't bad.
 
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I didn't say recoil velocity wasn't a thing. But I believe some people misunderstand it, and attribute bigger case magnums as having a different kind of recoil.

Recoil is recoil, and whether you get 40 lbs with a lighter bullet, big powder charge and 8 pound rifle, or 40 pounds with a big, heavy bullet going a bit slower with an 8 pound rifle, it's going to come back the same.

Felt recoil can change with stock shape, dimensions and recoil pads, but the numbers stay the same.
While I do agree that stock design can help OR hurt the situation, this isn't what I'm talking about.

You said in a previous post

Not sure where people get that this cartridge or that cartridge is a "push" while another has "sharp" recoil. You can load up all different combos of big bullets at lower velocity, or lighter bullets at high velocity and big cases of powder and recoil is recoil. Same kind of impulse depending on rifle weight.

You start off with "this cartridge or that cartridge" in an earlier post, but now you dialed it to "40 lbs of recoil no matter how you get there". Again, in the same rifle, not sure I'd notice the difference between a max load 232 grain bullet or a 285 grain bullet but there would be a slight difference. On the other hand, recoil pulse or velocity starts really showing up in bigger cartridges. Go pop off a 45-70 405 grain load at 1200 fps. Total pussycat. Take a 325 ftx and get it going 2,200 fps. Not a pussycat, kinda punchy, that's an example of a sharper recoil pulse. The gun is physically and mathematically coming back at you faster. Even the Chuck Hawks recoil tables reflect the fact.
 
Well I never really worried about recoil until I got my 458 Winchester magnum, loaded with 500gn bullets at 2200 fps… that is straight up unpleasant lol drop the bullet weight to 350 and the velocity up to 2400 and all the sudden it is a nice gun to shoot, the gun is only 9lbs!
 
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