I believe all 10/22's and clones of 10/22's need to be modified to work, The Tuff-22's from Dlask come pre modified, you can read about it here,
https://dlaskarms.com/product/25-round-magazine-for-tuf-22-rifles/
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https://dlaskarms.com/product/25-round-magazine-for-tuf-22-rifles/
This is incorrect and I was curious if the member I'd asked the question to was under the same impression.
Many clones do not require any augmentation at all. They are able to fit regular 10/22 mags as well as the Tuff 22 mags.
Why is that? Which clones do you think work without modifying the mag well?
Dlask refers to their Tuff 22 as a 10/22 pattern rifle as it's not a true clone.
Dlask seems to think that they designed their Tuff mags to specifically not work with stock 10/22 magwells... but what do they know?
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Why is that? Which clones do you think work without modifying the mag well?
Dlask refers to their Tuff 22 as a 10/22 pattern rifle as it's not a true clone.
Dlask seems to think that they designed their Tuff mags to specifically not work with stock 10/22 magwells... but what do they know?
Dlask asserts the mags fit their receivers but nowhere do they state no other receiver would fit them.
I mentioned a brand specifically in a reply you responded to. Have a gander before responding please and thanks.
Model C-71 Receiver https://share.google/damZb7j3NHFsJLQg6
It pretty much says it in the link, and the post above where I pasted it into the post.... not sure what your issue is understanding that the Tuff 22 mags were designed not to fit a 10/22 magwell.
Thanks for the link to the C71 it's good to know that others are making factory converted receivers for Tuff-22 magazines.... but it sort of emphasizes what I've been trying to tell you....
What are the other many 10/22 clones that you think accept tuff-22 mags without a cut?
And since your so far a head of the curve.... Please tell me who has Tuff-22 mags for sale right now?
Thanks.
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Hey, looks like I found the post you were snarking about....
As I said I was unaware that SBI now makes 10/22 based receivers that are pre cut for Tuff22 mags.... good to know!
Now that I do know that, I can help you with your question in this post that you cherish. The newer SBI units that are factory cut forTuff mags do not need to be cut again after it's purchased,,,,, and technically it's not a clone of a stock 10/22, more of a hybrid.
Why is that? Which clones do you think work without modifying the mag well?
Dlask refers to their Tuff 22 as a 10/22 pattern rifle as it's not a true clone.
Dlask seems to think that they designed their Tuff mags to specifically not work with stock 10/22 magwells... but what do they know?
Dlask asserts the mags fit their receivers but nowhere do they state no other receiver would fit them.
I mentioned a brand specifically in a reply you responded to. Have a gander before responding please and thanks.
Model C-71 Receiver https://share.google/damZb7j3NHFsJLQg6
Hunh? We're definitely on different pages my friend! I think I understand where the confusion set in.It pretty much says it in the link, and the post above where I pasted it into the post.... not sure what your issue is understanding that the Tuff 22 mags were designed not to fit a 10/22 magwell.
Thanks for the link to the C71 it's good to know that others are making factory converted for Tuff-22 magazines.... but it sort of ephazies what I've been trying to tell you....
What are the other many 10/22 clones that accept tuff-22 mags? And since your a head of the curve.... Please tell me who has Tuff-22 mags for sale right now?
Thanks.
I had asked if you believed an SBI receiver needed to be modified "after it was purchased" and you responded claiming "all 10/22 and clone receivers require modification". That was an incorrect answer to my question which I pointed out, buuuut at the time I didn't realize you'd ignored my question and it's context completely! You were making a statement in a broader sense, again, ignoring the context of my question.
When I made the claim that many clones do not require any augmentation to fit regular 10/22 mags as well as the Tuff 22 mags, it was in the context of "after purchase". I fully understand that all receivers that fit tuff 22 mags need to be modified via a notch in the magwell that permits the plastic tab on a tuff 22 mag to key into place.
Hopefully this clears things up as I think our misunderstanding has probably led to members removing themselves from the notifications to the thread!
As far as the other manufacturers and mags go, I'm still hunting these down myself and don't want to ruin my chances of finding one with dwindling stock these days. I know, I know, it seems selfish but we've already given 2 manufacturers for the people interested in this setup, and besides, anyone can do the same leg work/research I have to find out.
However, I promise to edit this response with more options, links and costs once I've completed my build
.Welcome to gunnutz Malta 1911, most of us are pretty ok with being wrong, I know I am!Dlask asserts the mags fit their receivers but nowhere do they state no other receiver would fit them.
I mentioned a brand specifically in a reply you responded to. Have a gander before responding please and thanks.
Model C-71 Receiver https://share.google/damZb7j3NHFsJLQg6
Hunh? We're definitely on different pages my friend! I think I understand where the confusion set in.
I had asked if you believed an SBI receiver needed to be modified "after it was purchased" and you responded claiming "all 10/22 and clone receivers require modification". That was an incorrect answer to my question which I pointed out, buuuut at the time I didn't realize you'd ignored my question and it's context completely! You were making a statement in a broader sense, again, ignoring the context of my question.
When I made the claim that many clones do not require any augmentation to fit regular 10/22 mags as well as the Tuff 22 mags, it was in the context of "after purchase". I fully understand that all receivers that fit tuff 22 mags need to be modified via a notch in the magwell that permits the plastic tab on a tuff 22 mag to key into place.
Hopefully this clears things up as I think our misunderstanding has probably led to members removing themselves from the notifications to the thread!
As far as the other manufacturers and mags go, I'm still hunting these down myself and don't want to ruin my chances of finding one with dwindling stock these days. I know, I know, it seems selfish but we've already given 2 manufacturers for the people interested in this setup, and besides, anyone can do the same leg work/research I have to find out.
However, I promise to edit this response with more options, links and costs once I've completed my build
The answers to your confusion are in this thread already but as you point out anyone can do an online search or get an agent to do it for them.....
Good luck on your build bud and increasing your knowledge.
You're too much bud! And if you're okay ignoring that you caused the shared confusion which formed our convo then this conversation is done. And just a heads up I'm the one who increased your knowledge, not the other way around.
Once I thought I was wrong..... turned out I was mistaken! Sometimes we just don't know what we don't know.... ya know?
Thanks again for pointing out that there is one other Canadian manufacturing doing what Dlask did, hopefully the many other clones you claim exist that also accept tuff mags will go on sale soon and the tuff mags them selves will actually be available again for people like you to buy and enjoy!
It was nice to meet you and get to know a little bit about how you tick.... it takes all kinds.
My knowledge overflowth thanks to you! I will try not to let it go to my head.....
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I agree. I just see a ton on the second hand market which makes me think these are hit or miss.
I’ve only been to the range once, the cross pin that stops the bolt from traveling back won’t stay put. It dropped out twice in less than 50 rounds. The 597 adapter is crap. I tried several mags, factory and aftermarket and they will not even fit in the adapter. I only shot off the bench at 25 yards with a scope. Only took a few rounds to zero. If I can keep the pin in place it probably will be a fun plinker but not impressed so far.
For the guys arguing about receivers and Tuf-22 magazines...
They're not that great anyways. I have 4 of them and can't get them to feed reliably. If anyone has any tips I'm all ears!
I have had much better luck with the SBI adapter and 597 mags. These run perfectly for me... at least in my guns. So much so that I bought a second adapter just in case lol. These are marketed as 22rd magazines but they actually hold 23-24.
They're not that great anyways. I have 4 of them and can't get them to feed reliably. If anyone has any tips I'm all ears!
I have had much better luck with the SBI adapter and 597 mags. These run perfectly for me... at least in my guns. So much so that I bought a second adapter just in case lol. These are marketed as 22rd magazines but they actually hold 23-24.
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I noticed the same. Not a great endorsement.
I appreciate your honest review. Never fun, but we've all been there at some point.
Mine took quite a bit of file work to get to function properly in an SBI receiver.
Opened up the slot at the rear, filed the top of the tall feed lip down, ramped the rear of it, etc. It's a PITA, and still ammo sensitive.
Had I know how much better the Deryas run I wouldn't have messed with the Tuf mags.
My $200 TM22 Standard runs like a sewing machine on ammo my 10/22s choke on.
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Its not the receiver in my experience, its the Tuf 22 mags that are a bit janky. If you dont load them just so, they will cause feeding issues. There is a video around here somewhere that shows the proper process for loading them so they dont cause issues, but in a competition setting....I personally wouldnt trust them. Wish someone would make an exacty BX25 copy with the front tang like the Tuf 22 mags, that would solve a lot of the mag problems.
