Black Bears can be Dangerous!!

Republic of Alberta, if you are going to comment on my postings, please comment on what is written, and don't add a bunch of stuff you think I said, but I didn't.
My thread stressed two points, only. I said I had never heard of a wounded black bear trying to attack the shooter.
I said black bears are not known to be protective of their cubs. I gave some instances of this, and there are many more.
You stated if I had more time around bears I would find out, etc. You have no idea how much time I have spent in bear country, or around bears.
I can assure you of something, though. I'll wager that I have spent more time, in many different areas, in the wilds of BC than you have. And I'm talking real remote country, not where you can walk back to your truck in half an hour.
 
Republic of Alberta said:
Your false sense of security will catch up with SOME of you one day. . It's not the 99 timid bears that scare the s**t out of you. It's the just the 1 with the attitude. A little more time around bears and you will surely change your tune
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And that's what makes it interesting. I am very much aware of the power of even a small bear, and there's potential for danger with any large animal. I'd bet, there's been more close calls with moose and elk than with any bears.

I go out to hunt, not just to shoot animals. That means fair chase, or at least what we modern hunters pretend is fair. If a critter pick's one of us off once in a while, while we're trying to do the same to it, that's fair by me and better than rotting away in some care home.
 
h4831 who said I was talking directly to you, poorly worded post on my part I guess.

And by the way the second bear I ever shot did attempt to come at me when I found it in the bush 1/2 alive...... and ask Demonical about the one that tried to bite his feet when he walked up to it.:D
 
Camp Cook said:
Threatened? ah "no" not at all did it have the potential of becoming a threat ..
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Good Lord that is hilarious.
Threatened? You bet your dirty underwear you were! You were so nervous you could hardly talk and were clearing your throat with such a nervous twitch that you are perhaps the only person who didn't notice it! I'm with Bison on this one that bear wasn't even worked enough to show dominance let alone be aggressive. For someone who "claimed" such vast amounts of "experience" you just showed your total lack of experience with that clip. I'll pass judgement on the clip. The bear didn't care you were there, as soon as you started the quad and pushed into his comfort range he moved off. End of story but you fumbling to load your gun was worth all the time it took to down load the clip on the slow connection I get up here.
Jeez that is so bad I'm embarrassed for you!
What do you do when it gets dark out?:slap:
 
Oh man the ignore feature doesn't work when the ignored one posts I actually read it's drivel in the e-mail at least here on the sight I can't see it I can delete the e-mail and the inexperienced drivel will once again be gone... :D

As for my throat I was clearing it because of all the celebrations the night before oh yeah my son & I were celebrating that I just the day before shot one of BC largest mountain grizzlies ever taken that will be in the top BC book & in the B&C... :cheers:

Some are so filled with drivel it just amazes me...

and now it's gone... :dancingbanana:
 
I've seen black bear sows run away from their cubs and climb a tree, and I've also seen them chase the cubs up a tree and aggresivley defend them.

One instance a few years ago I was out scouting bears for a coupleof novice bear hunters that were to join me the next day. I was watchign a sow and 3 cubs, when all of a sudden she whirled around, chased the cubs up a tree and ran full tilt at a large boar who had just crested the ridge, and was coming down to the cubs.

She put on quit e adisplay of force to the much larger boar, and when ever he took a step forward, she advanced too, until he finally sat down, then looked around and departed.

It was clear she didn't want to fight, but she was ready willing and able, if pushed.
 
bears

Bears have a personality as individual as the bears themselves. I have seen sows bolt and leave their cubs standing there,others chased them up a tree and then ran off squawking. I have watched a few that would lead the little ones away quickly while looking back to see if I was following.
Every bear whether a sow with little ones or a big boar will have the potential to be dangerous.
 
Camp Cook said:
Oh man the ignore feature doesn't work when the ignored one posts I actually read it's drivel in the e-mail at least here on the sight I can't see it I can delete the e-mail and the inexperienced drivel will once again be gone... :D

As for my throat I was clearing it because of all the celebrations the night before oh yeah my son & I were celebrating that I just the day before shot one of BC largest mountain grizzlies ever taken that will be in the top BC book & in the B&C... :cheers:

Some are so filled with drivel it just amazes me...

and now it's gone... :dancingbanana:
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Nothing, absolutely nothing you can say can take the shake out of your voice on that clip!!!! That is frigging hilarious and then to post it as an example of a dangerous bear is just plain goofy, obviously the reaction of a rattled inexperienced person. Then to top it off you do the armed retreat thing before unloading your gun when you are of reach of the vicious killer bear, hoooo haaaa!
Go ahead and posture all you want but you just blew your imaginary image out of the water with anyone here who watches that clip. Priceless! I couldn't have asked for a better example of someone who didn't have a clue what he was talking about than you putting up that clip and then defending it hahahahahahaha.
God what a great start to the weekend.
 
Camp Cook said:
..... shot one of BC largest mountain grizzlies ever taken that will be in the top BC book & in the B&C... :cheers:QUOTE]

Is there an online resource of BC records? From what I gathered from your post about your Grizz hunt, I thought your bear measured just the minimum 23 inches that is required to get into the book.....?? I don't know, just asking.
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Curt said:
Camp Cook said:
..... shot one of BC largest mountain grizzlies ever taken that will be in the top BC book & in the B&C... :cheers:QUOTE]

Is there an online resource of BC records? From what I gathered from your post about your Grizz hunt, I thought your bear measured just the minimum 23 inches that is required to get into the book.....?? I don't know, just asking.
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BC book minimum is 23"

The #1 in the BC books is over 29" and a VERY large bear.

24" and down are all nice bears, but relatively common, like a 19"-20" black bear. 19 is the minimum for black bears.
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thrush said:
:cool: Each year we have to SHOOT black bears for attacking people that were walking there dog, others planting trees. Tell the girl that had part of her face ripped open by a black bear when she was up planting. And no there were no cubs. some of these acounts I was sent in to help get the bear so I seen it first hand and the bear was a mean SOB Some bears like people are just nasty and if you have not seen one like that in 20 years well good on you for there are others that have and NO these people did not provock them or come on to a fresh kill or nuthing The bear just had a bad attitude.
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I agree with this post!

I have had run ins with Black bears on my Remoat West coast trapline years ago.
Not all Black Bears are the Same.

One i shot! It just came crashing out of the Salal and was on the bank 6 feet away.
Others will run at the sight of you.

There unpredictable.
 
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Regarding record book grizzlies. That BC record of 29 2/16 was taken on the BC coast in 1912. The Boone and Crocket record grizzly is 27 13/16, taken in Alaska. Our big old guy didn't get to Boone and Crocket.
It could be that Boone And Crocket have to have a fair chase statement, because the same thing has happened with goats. Our record goat is a pick up from Hedley in 1969 and measures 57 2/8. The top Boone and Crocket goat was taken near Bella Coola in 1999 and measures 56 6/8.
Again, Boone and Crocket doesn't have the larger pick up.
I was a BC scorer for many years, including 1970, when their first book of records was published. I have that first book, but not the following editions. In the 1970 book the top grizzly was taken in 1954 at Rivers Inlet and scored 26 10/16.
I guess the reason I have the #1 book and not the others is because the club gave a copy of the first edition to their scorers, but then quit being so generous!
I also have the Boone and Crocket Club record book of 1952, their first book showing the new, current, scoring method. (OK you collectors, quit drooling)
In that 1952 book there are only 12 grizzly bear listings, with the top one from Montana and scoring 25 9/16.
 
Looked mostly curious to me. Still - can't be too sure. It doesn't hurt to put the fear of man into 'em at a young age, that's for sure :)
 
Demonical......I wasn't there and far be it for me to criticize but from your photos and description, it doesn't appear to be anything more than a curious young black bear. I had a 30 yard encounter with a small bear like this last week while out shed hunting that basically displayed the exact same mannerisms as in your photos and I never even bothered to uncase the bear spray. If you've ever been faced with a truly aggressive black bear you'd know that this bear in the photos was nothing more than curious. This is not to say that you should not be careful around bears and respect them but the chance of a bear showing any sign of aggression is truely remote and there's no mistaking it when it happens.

I find people that tend anthropomorphize animals also tend to misread their intentions and let their imagination get the best of them. Write it off to a cool encounter with a bear but it definitely wasn't a life-threatening experience.
 
Camp Cook said:
Did he act anything like this one?

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=arwwny4JYtM&feature=email

This is the last 6 + minutes of a 28 minute encounter with this bear.

We finally backed off from him when he got to within 15 yards and looked like he was coming still...

We had just shot the grizzly a couple days before and didn't want to have to deal with a little black bear as well.

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At first he was in the tree line on the opposite side of the road he wasn't happy he startedd growling and snapping his jaws at us he slowly worked his way across the road in front of us eating the entoire time max 40 yards away but mostly 20 - 25 yards away.

We saw around 100 bears in total on this last trip and were able to sneak up to within 20 yards of another 6 bears.

It was a lot of fun I'm thinking of digging my bow out for next year when we go back never tried to shoot a bear with a bow before... :D
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Is it possible you posted the wrong link here campcook? I didn't see anything but a bear worried about filling his belly on the side of the road and nervous that you might get closer. If that was a dangerous black bear encounter, I'd say that a million tourists a year can claim the same regarding their roadside experiences in Banff and Jasper. If you'd have run up to that bear and said "Boo" he'd have run away at a hundred miles an hour. I've got hours of video exactly like that and never once did I worry about loading a gun and in most cases didn't even have one. I think your imagination got the best of you here or you'd just been forced to watch a Mutal of Omaha Wild Kingdom marthon.

Just curious why you didn't show the first 22 minutes of video of him growling and snapping instead of nervously eating? In all my years around bears, I've never heard one growl.....hmmmmm Aggressive bears will do a bit of jaw popping and when fatally wounded they'll do a death moan....but growl? My experience has been that it's the quiet ones you need to watch out for....but that's just my experience.
 
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H4831 said:
Regarding record book grizzlies. That BC record of 29 2/16 was taken on the BC coast in 1912. The Boone and Crocket record grizzly is 27 13/16, taken in Alaska. Our big old guy didn't get to Boone and Crocket.
It could be that Boone And Crocket have to have a fair chase statement, because the same thing has happened with goats. Our record goat is a pick up from Hedley in 1969 and measures 57 2/8. The top Boone and Crocket goat was taken near Bella Coola in 1999 and measures 56 6/8.
Again, Boone and Crocket doesn't have the larger pick up.
I was a BC scorer for many years, including 1970, when their first book of records was published. I have that first book, but not the following editions. In the 1970 book the top grizzly was taken in 1954 at Rivers Inlet and scored 26 10/16.
I guess the reason I have the #1 book and not the others is because the club gave a copy of the first edition to their scorers, but then quit being so generous!
I also have the Boone and Crocket Club record book of 1952, their first book showing the new, current, scoring method. (OK you collectors, quit drooling)
In that 1952 book there are only 12 grizzly bear listings, with the top one from Montana and scoring 25 9/16.
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I am feeling unworthy here & am humbled greatly......:redface:
 
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