32days and 1472$ later

All the link are now working, thank's Cyan1de for the info.
On the online form from canada, put a lot of information, part's number, what are you building, what caliber and purpose of the finished project, keep in mind that the people that will read it are not gunsmith or mabye even not hunters.
Do the same for the US papers
Also, make sure you have 4 papers, the import form from canada, the DSP-83, the end user form AND the purchase order, the last one is as important than the 3 others

Here what they say

Section 123.1(c)(4) of the International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR) establishes that the Directorate of Defense Trade Controls (DDTC) may require all pertinent documentary information in order to consider the issuance of a license or other approval. Consistent with our longstanding practice, in addition to requiring a purchase order, letter of intent, or other documentation, DDTC's Office of Defense Trade Controls Licensing (DTCL) may require a signed contract to be submitted with any application for the permanent export of defense articles.
The purpose of this requirement is to confirm the legitimacy of the transaction, including the roles and responsibilities of all the parties. DTCL has received with increasing frequency supporting documentation that calls into question whether the applicants are in a position to fulfill their responsibilities as registered exporters and, in fact, whether anyone at the companies could meet the obligations as empowered officials under Section 120.25. In these instances, the applications have been Returned Without Action advising the applicants of the ITAR requirements.
At this time, DTCL finds it prudent to reiterate to exporters of defense articles the fundamental ITAR requirement for supporting documentation.
The purchase documentation must be from the foreign party purchasing the defense articles. The purchase documentation cannot be from its U.S. subsidiary since the latter entity is considered a U.S. person under the ITAR. The purchase order must be addressed and directed to the registered U.S. party selling the defense articles and submitting the export license application. This ensures that the applicant is in a contractual position to fulfill all responsibilities of registered parties under the ITAR, including being knowledgeable of all elements of the transaction. The documentation may contain references to other parties and their roles (e.g., suppliers, manufacturers, freight forwarders), but at a minimum must specifically explain the role of the party submitting the license application.
All applications submitted after September 16, 2005, not in compliance with this requirement will be Returned Without Action. In the interim, DTCL will consider applications on a case-by-case basis and determine whether they may be approved pending full implementation of this requirement.

Hope it will help

Sendero
 
I forgot the best one:

If your import totals more than $1600 CDN, you are required to complete a Customs B3 Form. I will leave it to you to figure this one out, including commodity coding and how the exchange is calculated.

The alternative is to use a shipping company or customs broker and you can pay them the 8% of value to broker your shipment for you

http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/E/pbg/cf/b3-3/b3-3-fill-04b.pdf
 
Obtunded said:
I forgot the best one:

If your import totals more than $1600 CDN, you are required to complete a Customs B3 Form. I will leave it to you to figure this one out, including commodity coding and how the exchange is calculated.

The alternative is to use a shipping company or customs broker and you can pay them the 8% of value to broker your shipment for you

http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/E/pbg/cf/b3-3/b3-3-fill-04b.pdf
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Thank's to mention it, i didn't know about this one, the action cost me roughly 1300$CAD and 172$ of taxes this side of the border, all the part's i have order yet was BELOW this 1600$ mark, usually AR lower, 2-300$, rifle stock for 7-800$ and a some part below the 500$mark.
i'll take care not to BUST the limit
thank's for the info

Respectfully

Sendero
 
sendero said:
Not just for stock, for ALL the stuff that require a import permit (like shotgun parts) AND/OR are 100$ over, STOCK, MUZZLE BRAKE, TRIGGER, etc... i use to importe AR-lower with the same form, without prob...

Sendero
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That is amazing, Now I'll look into importing the McMillan stock and not pay the rip-off prices they sell for up here :):):)
 
So when you order a reciever or complete rifle, at which part of the process does the registration get done in Canada. Prior to entering the country, or after you recieve it?
 
Hey Sandero since it was so easy to get that action hows about you sell it to me and get yourself a nice new one. HAHA

In all seriousness great work you have shown people that there are options out there and now they can make informed decisions.

PS where did you get the action from exactly as 30 days sounds like it was stocked somewhere, last i heard Surgeon was running behind a little bit.
 
US companies have to pay a percentage of their export revenue as a fee for the privilege of obtaining export licenses from the US dept of state. Consequently, many US companies have stopped selling To Canadians altogether. Those that do are generally charging fees for the paperwork and the hassle of exporting to Canada. I was a bit surprised to see the Surgeon action was not export shipped by a US Govt. approved firearms shipper. That is always done by air and the last action I ordered cost an addition $400 US for the cost of shipping this way.

Furthermore, many US companies treat Canadian businesses as just another retail customer and are charging them retail prices - the same price everyone pays, so those guys who are "ripping you off" are covering their costs. There is a big difference between a business and a charity. If you can't live with that, then PLEASE just import your own stuff. That's why I posted the links. (Did I mention you have to repeat the whole process if you have to send your purchase back for repair or replacement?)

I know I don't want to make anyone feel miserable or ripped off when they buy from me... but it is indeed ironic how it is the always the same people on here bashing businesses.
 
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US companies have to pay a percentage of their export revenue as a fee for the privilege of obtaining export licenses from the US dept of state. Consequently, many US companies have stopped selling To Canadians altogether. Those that do are generally charging fees for the paperwork and the hassle of exporting to Canada. I was a bit surprised to see the Surgeon action was not export shipped by a US Govt. approved firearms shipper. That is always done by air and the last action I ordered cost an addition $400 US for the cost of shipping this way.

Furthermore, many US companies treat Canadian businesses as just another retail customer and are charging them retail prices - the same price everyone pays, so those guys who are "ripping you off" are covering their costs. There is a big difference between a business and a charity. If you can't live with that, then PLEASE just import your own stuff. That's why I posted the links. (Did I mention you have to repeat the whole process if you have to send your purchase back for repair or replacement?)

I know I don't want to make anyone feel miserable or ripped off when they buy from me... but it is indeed ironic how it is the always the same people on here bashing businesses.
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For DRAGONSLAYER, OK, give me 2999.00 NOW and i'll ship it to you in few month, are you OK with that ?? how do YOU feel if i tell you that ?? loll it was the same for me !!!

For other, this is where i have bought it :
###.brownells.com/aspx/NS/store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=26367&title=SHORT-ACTION%20RECEIVER%20&%20BOLT Also, if you call there, SANDY MORANVILLE is it the nice lady that help me with my paper, FREE.
Sandy Moranville
Managed Accounts-International
sandym@brownells.com


My intention is NOT to say people in canada are RIPED OFF or even worst, to cause problem here, if you read my post CAREFULY, i write that there is a LOT good buisness and that work HARD for us, i EVEN say that there is MORE good ones than BAD ones.
Also if you search on ALL the post here, i'am not the cheap guy who shop around to save 20$ on a 200$ like some are doing, i call, it's in stock, i'll pay and shut my mouth, i never ask if i can get a BETTER PRICE.
BUT to me 1500$ profit for a I DON'T KNOW IN HOW MANY MONTH I CAN HAVE IT is a (sorry for my word) stupid answer, i prefer a NO I CAN'T than a MABYE BUT DON'T KNOW WHEN AND HOW MUCH
I know we have to pay MORE for some of our buisness to continue in canada, but like i have say, how much is too much ?? my offer for 300$ profit is not good for a rifle action ??

What i don't like here sometime is the attitude, like you seem to have now, for people that have the BALL to do something by THEMSELF.
MY DREAM was to have a surgeon action, NOBODY was able to help me even little bit so i have do the thing by MYSELF and shared my experience just in case other feel limke me.
as for the warrranty of the part's i'am importing myself, it's the same for you my friend, if i buy something from you that you have bought in the US and it's deffective, i will lost if four countless month ANYWAY because NOBODY in canada keep enough in stock (USA REGULATION FOR IMPORT, NOT CANADIAN FAULT) OR if in stock, they will NOT let it to me because under warranty and they JUST CAN'T lose a sale and that's OK for me... Sorry but i'am not eating the warranty lunch.

Now, if you look carfully at my pic, there is NO tube screwed on it, when i have called Preston at surgeon, he strongly suggest me Kreiger and Mike Rock, i have already called at Kreiger, for a #10MTU, 12 flutes 1:10 24in finished, they suggest me to go with you instead of direct buy (i didn't know it was you, i now know because i can see it on the bottom of your post) i heard a LOT of good comments about you all around here, are you gonna help me or not, just because i have imported my own action and explained my frustation for the stupid answer i have received ??

Let me know

Respectfully
Sendero
 
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