Building a lazer beam for coyotes

I know it's not what you want, but when I think coyote lazer, I think .17 Predator. for a calling rifle anyways.

x2, mine flattens them like they were hit with a Dodge:eek:

that has to be messy! what with all the bits falling off and the bullet breaking down on the way to the target ;)
 
I went with a 6mm-284 it is only a 21" barrel but with 70gr ballistic tips and IMR4350 powder I get 3650fps and have loaded 90gr Barnes X bullets to 3500fps.

I'm thinking of giving RL17 a try in this cartridge should bump velocities up very nicely.

I have absolutely no feeding problems with this round and it is very accurate.

Only issue I used to have was finding 284 brass it is not all that common anymore but now 6.5-284 is available, all I do is resized/neck the brass and load regularly no fireforming required.
 
I went with a 6mm-284 it is only a 21" barrel but with 70gr ballistic tips and IMR4350 powder I get 3650fps and have loaded 90gr Barnes X bullets to 3500fps.

I'm thinking of giving RL17 a try in this cartridge should bump velocities up very nicely.

I have absolutely no feeding problems with this round and it is very accurate.

Only issue I used to have was finding 284 brass it is not all that common anymore but now 6.5-284 is available, all I do is resized/neck the brass and load regularly no fireforming required.

Thank you. So is yours in a SA or LA? Do you ever use a little heavier bullet?? I was thinking about most 70gr and less, but it would nice to have the option of 105 gr VLD's.... I'm stumped as to what twist i should go.
I think any case mines going to be 26" barrel though.... so i would guess based off of your results with 70gr i should be close to 3850 to 3900 fp.
 
Thank you. So is yours in a SA or LA? Do you ever use a little heavier bullet?? I was thinking about most 70gr and less, but it would nice to have the option of 105 gr VLD's.... I'm stumped as to what twist i should go.
I think any case mines going to be 26" barrel though.... so i would guess based off of your results with 70gr i should be close to 3850 to 3900 fp.

Mine is a made in Germany Voerre long action.

I had shot heavier bullets but they wouldn't group for me so I finally got around to checking the twist rate and found that it was a 1 - 12" which is to slow for the heavier bullets.

Now I only shoot up to 85gr bullets and I have great accuracy.

If I was to rebarrel the rifle I would still go with the 6mm-284 go with a 1 - 10" twist rate to handle a wider range of bullets and would load Swifts new .419 BC Scirroco 2 90gr bullet, actually if I was able to get the velocity up I would probably use this one bullet for all of my predator/deer hunting in this rifle.

Just did a search on the Hornady site and found this I'm going to have to give these a try but the bearing surface may still be to long for my 1 - 12 twist which means they will not be very accurate in my rifle...

6mm .243 80 gr GMX®

Features:
Streamlined design for ultra-flat trajectories
Devastating terminal performance across a wide range of velocities
Gilding metal construction and double cannelures reduce fouling
Compatible with conventional reloading data
BC = .300

Damn the more I think about this the more I want to switch the barrel to a 24" sporter conture s/s 1 - 10" twist rate...
 
You could also try making one of these.
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Good luck making your yote lazer. Keep us informed of your progress.

George



THAT is the scaryist FooCKING thing I have EVER seen!

Wouldn't that just be called a BOMB!?
 
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Originally Posted by crazydave
Had a magazine that had a review of a 22-240 weatherby i think they were getting 4750 fps with not to much difficulty

Oh? Thats about 750 fps better then i was hoping for..... I don't suppose you remember bullets used eh? Or for that matter who makes a reamer...

Have you bothered to read the original post?:D I don't want a weatherbey. I don't want anything based off a weatherby for that reason. I also don't want a .22..... mostly just because i just don't... :redface:
An odd six and .270 share the same case, no? So i would think it would be easier to use 25-06 brass, then either 30-06 or .270 brass, even though both would likely work, which is a bonus i guess.:)

I guess my biggest dilemma is finding real world info comparing the 6-06 and 6-284. FWIW, reloaders nest shows them to be nearly identical.

Interesting how I must have "misunderstood" your posts.:rolleyes:

If you had read the article I posted you would have seen real world data of the .22x64, which is the .22-.270, which is different than a 6mm-06 because the .270 Win brass is longer. You would have seen how to chamber and reload without special reamers or brass (= less $$). But whatever, you are getting lots of good info from others so I'll just leave it at that. The 6mm-06 is the same as an unbelted .240 Wby, so data should be easy to find.
 
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Originally Posted by crazydave
Had a magazine that had a review of a 22-240 weatherby i think they were getting 4750 fps with not to much difficulty

If it is the same article I remember reading I believe the article was written by Rick Jamison and was in a Shooting Times magazine.
 
Camp Cook - Barnes is showing 3814 fps with their 80gr TTSX BT out of a 24" barrel 25-06 using Hybrid 100V powder! That bullet has a BC of .316 so you would have a PBR of 355 yards when zerod at 305 yards (+-3") and still have over 1000ft-lbs of energy at 450 yards. Not too shabby, imho.

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Camp Cook - Barnes is showing 3814 fps with their 80gr TTSX BT out of a 24" barrel 25-06 using Hybrid 100V powder! That bullet has a BC of .316 so you would have a PBR of 355 yards when zerod at 305 yards (+-3") and still have over 1000ft-lbs of energy at 450 yards. Not too shabby, imho.

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I wonder what one could expect for accuracy?? :sniper:
 
Noooo.... I promised myself not to get any more rifle/cartridge combo's this year need to finish working on what I have now and I'm already way behind and the BC for that bullet is only .316 not as high as I would want to get me to start thinking 25-06 oh man don't need it... :D

Need to do more work on my new 280 Rem/30-06/300RUM/375RUM Rem 700 LSS rifles then I need to restart my silent 45-70 loading thinking of working down with 550gr bullets now and now because of this thread I'm starting to think about rebarreling my 6mm-284 to a longer barrel with a faster/better twist rate again...

The 70gr Ballistic Tips I'm using now in the 6mm-284 only have a BC of .310 if I had a longer barrel I would be almost the same velocity as the 25-06 naa not going to look at the 25-06...
 
I wonder what one could expect for accuracy?? :sniper:

I used to shoot a .257 Wby with 75gr X bullets sent on their way by a hefty charge of RL22. The muzzle velocity was just under 4000fps and accuracy was good. It was an effective load on game too; a couple of friends and I shot many boar with that load in addition to this:

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That was in the days before the improved TSX and TTSX.
 
My buddy shot a 257 Weatherby as well it was super accurate I wouldn't expect anything different from a 25-06...
 
Sooo, I've decided to go with a 6mm-06 AI, 1:9 twist, with a finished length of 26". I'm going to try out the prefit Mcgowen barrel nut kit for the rem 700's.
So... now we wait....:)
 
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