IPSC newbie question

Mine runs fine too. But I carry a tool kit to fix other peoples guns with.
And don't go there Pat. Just....don't.

He doesn't go already. I don't even remember when I saw him last at the club match. Naturally his unused gun is not going to break at the matches. :D
 
I prefer to practice instead, which if everyone here did more, there'd be less discussion on gear and more on what really matters...
 
Hey, you started it. :cool:

Those failures are no one but our own faults. We should know better to make sure that gun and the ammo work well before a major match.

not to hijack,....but I think the most important thing to participating in IPSC is to have a reliable gun,..reliable, reliable, reliable. Nothing more discouraging for a new shooter (or any shooter), than to have gun/ammo problems. It is actually painfull to watch someone go thru it. My guns are reliable, or I won't use them. Two of the best feeding guns I have owned are the HK USP, and tanfoglio stock 2.
 
not to hijack,....but I think the most important thing to participating in IPSC is to have a reliable gun,..reliable, reliable, reliable. Nothing more discouraging for a new shooter (or any shooter), than to have gun/ammo problems. It is actually painfull to watch someone go thru it. My guns are reliable, or I won't use them. Two of the best feeding guns I have owned are the HK USP, and tanfoglio stock 2.

What he said! :agree:
 
..I think the most important thing to participating in IPSC, ISSF Standard Pistol, ISSF Rapid Fire, ISSF Centerfire, pin shooting, plate shooting, PPC, NRA 300s and 2700s, and Venusian Blonk Tuesday turkey shoots, is to have a reliable gun,..reliable, reliable, reliable. Nothing more discouraging for a new shooter (or any shooter), than to have gun/ammo problems. It is actually painfull to watch someone go thru it. My guns are reliable, or I won't use them.

Fixed that for you.

And I couldn't agree more. Friends don't let friends buy & shoot unreliable junk.
 
Friends don't let friends buy & shoot unreliable junk.
Nothings sucks worse than constant equipment problems. I know this only too well, unfortunately. So in order of importance I would say:
1. Reliabilty
2. Reliabilty
3. Reliabilty
4. Ergonomics (how it fits you, sights, trigger, etc)
5 Reliabilty.
6. Bling (how purdy do you want it to be)

YMMV
 
Damn I am scheduled to take the Black Badge course next weekend but I doubt I can hit a letter paper sized target 100% of the time at 20 meters. :( And the only pistols I have are a glock 17 and a USP tactical 45. Though I might be able to do it with the USP I really doubt I can do it with the Glock. And I was going to try to do the course with the glock.
 
You'll be fine...I was amazed at how much I learned when I took the BB course (you will be too)

Bring both...plenty of ammo...some red bull...and you'll be smiling all week-end.

The most important thing is that you are comfortable with your pistol...and it's reliable. The BB instructor(s) will take care of the rest.

Cheers

Damn I am scheduled to take the Black Badge course next weekend but I doubt I can hit a letter paper sized target 100% of the time at 20 meters. :( And the only pistols I have are a glock 17 and a USP tactical 45. Though I might be able to do it with the USP I really doubt I can do it with the Glock. And I was going to try to do the course with the glock.
 
Damn I am scheduled to take the Black Badge course next weekend but I doubt I can hit a letter paper sized target 100% of the time at 20 meters. :( And the only pistols I have are a glock 17 and a USP tactical 45. Though I might be able to do it with the USP I really doubt I can do it with the Glock. And I was going to try to do the course with the glock.
You will be fine
We will shoot a lot and have fun
By the way IPSC targets are bigger than letter sized paper
And we all miss once in a while
 
Okay guys. Thanks for all the input. I think I have pretty much narrowed it down to getting a CZ SP01. Now I just have one more question. If I was planning on competing in production then I would for sure get a Shadow in 9MM, now with that being said, If I decided to compete in the standard division would the SP01 Tactical model in 40 S&W be competetive in that class since it could be used as a Single action, just as 1911 variants. Or is a 1911 style pretty much the only way to go if you wanted to compete in standard division?
 
The SP-01 will work but I think you would be better off with a 1911/2011 style pistol. The STI Edge seems to be THE standard gun from what I have seen.

IF I was going into Standard Div I would probably go with an Edge in .40 or .45. Most lkely .45.

John
 
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Buying a 9mm is a good choice as ammo will be cheaper than 40(I assume you are not reloading)
1911s aren't the only guns in Standard but they are the most popular
And most 1911 in Standard are double stack

Enjoy the game
And then decide if you want to try another Division
The Divisions are there to level the playing field and have similar guns competing against each other
Or people shooting similar guns
 
Okay guys. Thanks for all the input. I think I have pretty much narrowed it down to getting a CZ SP01. Now I just have one more question. If I was planning on competing in production then I would for sure get a Shadow in 9MM, now with that being said, If I decided to compete in the standard division would the SP01 Tactical model in 40 S&W be competetive in that class since it could be used as a Single action, just as 1911 variants. Or is a 1911 style pretty much the only way to go if you wanted to compete in standard division?

I just went back and reread your opening post. If I understand it correctly you are looking for a pistol to try both PD and SD. In that case the Shadow will work just fine. If you just want to test the water 9mm is fine. Everyone is scored minor in PD and in SD power factor will be irrelevant for a newbie testing the water.

If you are really concerned about being 'competitive' in SD you will need a purpose built gun...along the lines of the Edge as I said before.

As a new shooter your No. 1 concern will be staying safe and having fun. The competitive aspect will come as you become more at home in the sport.

I have a Shadow myself. I shoot PD now and if I decide to TRY SD I will shoot it cocked and locked. If I decide to switchs div's then I will buy a purpose built gun.

Meanwhile....buy lots of ammo and start looking at reloading setups. Reloading is a must unless you are LOADED :D

John
 
okay, thanks again for the input. You guys have really answered alot of questions for me. I feel like Im heading in the right direction now.
 
Its good to get many opinions!

okay, thanks again for the input. You guys have really answered alot of questions for me. I feel like Im heading in the right direction now.

Its always good to get many opinions. In my case i started with a Springfield XD9. You get a gun and a holster and mag pouch. After about 6 months (just like Sean mentioned) I was so pissed at this gun that i went out and bought a Tanfoglio Limited Custom in 40 S&W and went to Standard division. Been at it for a year now and just love my Tanfoglio. Its a super accurate gun and reliable but is a bit more than the $1200 you wanted to spend. After having shot a polymer frame gun and then an all steel gun i would suggest you get an all steel gun to start. Just my opinion. The CZs and Tanfoglio's and even the Sigs. I hope you have all the information you need to make a decision. I wish i would have done the same when i was starting. Would not have that XD9.

RDG
 
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