Idpa q&a
- Thread starter Northern Pirate
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Go for it. Load the .40 cal mag with 13 rds of 9MM and see if they will remain in the mag and work in your 9MM. Then come back and argue your point. Lawuers make a living off of guys like you. "But officer there is a comma missing here in my opion so the law doesn't apply to me. Show me where you can load more than 10 rds in a pistol and still be legal or "Shut up" to use your phrase.
Take Care
Bob
There is no other way to read this. If a magazine is designed for .40 cartridges and holds 10 .40 cal rounds, its legal, even if it holds 13 rounds of 9mm.
Sorry Bob, but unless you can provide the legal support for your argument, I don't accept it.
This has nothing to do with missing comma's or whether or not a .40 cal mag will work with 9mm ammo in it. (even though its already been point out that it does in fact work for Glock, Beretta and Acrashb's gun)
Steve David
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Oshawa, Ontario
Is loading 9mm into a 40 the same as loading 40 into 45? Cause if it is, get out of the way, I saw a guy pick up some 40 off the floor during a shoot, load it into his 45, a very nice custom 1911 I may add, and then after pulling the trigger on the first round, the 40, hhhe was picking up several parts of a now not so nice custom 1911.
Perhaps you're confusing what is illegal, and what I'd get charged with. There is no law that prohibits what we're talking about here, however, if somebody with as much experience as yourself thinks it's illegal, surely a police officer could too. I may get arrested, but it doesn't mean that it's illegal.
Again, in Canada, it is legal to anything you want, unless it is defined as being illegal. You cannot prove something is legal, only what is illegal. Our definitions of what is illegal is conveniently grouped together in what we call the Criminal Code of Canada, and the Firearms Act. So, since I can find no definitions about what we're talking about in these documents, it is LEGAL.
Just like a criminal case, the onus would be on the Crown to prove I committed an illegal act, otherwise I am innocent. Please show me the section that I would get charged with.
I wait with bated breath for your response.
Well do what you want. You have a brain in your head, I know this from our conversations last summer. All I can tell you is if you load more than 13 rds in a magazine and manage to fire it in your pistol and get caught you will be in a world of hurt. If you have a magazine loaded with 13 rds and you are stopped by the police you are going to be in a world of hurt. 10 rds is the limit is Canada and there is nothing more I can say on the subject. Do otherwise at your peril.
Take Care
Bob
ps ,40 cal mags that hold 10 rds of .40 cal are legal. Live with it. Just don't make them into 9MM mags loaded with 13 rds of 9MM
You remind me of the guy who fearlessly walks out into a cross walk knowing if he gets hit by a car he can sue.
If you turn a .40cal mag into a 9MM mag, and that is what you are going to hear in court, you are back to a 10 rd limit. I fail to understand why you can''t get it but then again....
Good luck in court with your argument.
Take CAre
Bob
Steve David
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Oshawa, Ontario
Oh man, this years provincials are going to be fun, I am bringing lots of popcorn.....!
Steve David
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Oshawa, Ontario
Does that mean your coming down this yearLOL
If yes, your free to stay at my place the night before, the drive is only about 90 minutes from Brantford.
What makes you think it is in Windsor this year?
Steve David
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Oshawa, Ontario
And I'm bringing all the G22 mags I can find!! No 10rd limits for me!!
There is in IDPA......Mr.Wicked Police......
I did that, and dealt with a polite and professional RCMP member who determined, as the plain reading of the law would suggest, that it's perfectly OK.
To be exact, it was the "Firearms Support Services Directorate", the same group that examined and OK'd the LAR-15 mags.
Steve David
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Oshawa, Ontario
The letter is dated 2007-07-09. I sent in a P7M10 magazine with my interpretation of the law and a request to have them issue a determination, which they did. Took a few months, during which they remained in contact. Overall, a positive experience.
I've considered releasing the letter to the CSSA for their use, but there have been so many elections recently, it never seemed like a good time to do so.
I have not turned a .40 cal mag into anything. It is still marked .40 cal. I have not altered it in any way. It was designed to hold .40 cal ammo. It only hold 10 rounds of .40 cal. It also hold 13 rounds of 9mm. It also holds 20+ rounds of 22lr. But there is no law stating "Loading a magazine with more than 10 rounds is prohibited". You have interpreted it this way. Feel free not to load more than 10 rounds. That's your call.
Again, please point out the relevant sections of the Criminal Code or Firearms Act.
This is the key thing, which "bob" and a few others won't even acknowledge. I believe that their egos have become attached to their positions, so they can't budge and have to evade your simple question.
