The NEW KING is taking off!

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I've got a black, plastic 870 and I will shoot as many or more geese than any fine English double. And I don't much care if I drop it in the water. lol

I can spray paint it camo and sell for a $200 premium to a dumb kid. lol
 
Toomanyguns said:
I've got a black, plastic 870 and I will shoot as many or more geese than any fine English double. And I don't much care if I drop it in the water. lol

I can spray paint it camo and sell for a $200 premium to a dumb kid. lol
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The English double is for upland birds. This is for Waterfowl.

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If you don't buy an ugly gun, you don't have to cover it up with spray paint:p.
 
Gatehouse said:
Nothing wrong with selling good quality, affordable products. How many Holland and Hollands do you own?
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Well, none! I can't afford them!;)

Gatehouse said:
yes, lets compare, but to be fair, lets compare only the years that the NEW KING was available. I think you will find the NEW KING has far surpassed the H&H in new rifle sales.
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Surely you don't expect the sales of $1000 ruger to be less than a H&H rifle?:confused:
 
joe-nwt said:
Surely you don't expect the sales of $1000 ruger to be less than a H&H rifle?:confused:
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Of course not

Compare all the new rifle sales of .375 H&H (regardless of manufacturer) to .375 Ruger sales, in the time the .375 Ruger has been available.

The new rifle sales of 375 Ruger surpasses the new rifles sold that are chambered in .375 H&H (or any other .375 caliber cartridge for that matter)
 
Gatehouse said:
Of course not

Compare all the new rifle sales of .375 H&H (regardless of manufacturer) to .375 Ruger sales, in the time the .375 Ruger has been available.

The new rifle sales of 375 Ruger surpasses the new rifles sold that are chambered in .375 H&H (or any other .375 caliber cartridge for that matter)
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Well of course it does, it's new! Let's wait 5-10 years for all the people who want the novelty of a "new" 375 to get one,(find out it's not the greatest thing since sliced bread;)), and see how many rifles are sold in a normal year. My guess, with the market flooded with slightly used 375 rugers that people don't really want anymore, they won't even be in a yearly production run.
 
joe-nwt said:
Well of course it does, it's new! Let's wait 5-10 years for all the people who want the novelty of a "new" 375 to get one,(find out it's not the greatest thing since sliced bread;)), and see how many rifles are sold in a normal year. My guess, with the market flooded with slightly used 375 rugers that people don't really want anymore, they won't even be in a yearly production run.
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You are assuming they will find it's not the greatest thing since sliced bread...:p

They also assumed the 300WSM would wither and die....:evil:

I think you will find that the North Americans that enjoy using .375's will keep buying the NEW KING.

Keep in mind that this thread was started because other mainstream manufacturers other than Ruger announced plans to begin producing rifles chambered in the NEW KING. That alone is more validation than any SAUM, RUM or WSSM got.

The appeal of the NEW KING is evident- You can get H&H + ballistics in a regular action rifle. It is what the H&H would have been, if introduced in this day and age. If the H&H was introduced today, it would be laughed at.
 
Off topic a bit, but I shall soon purchase a used Toyota, much like I will buy a New King in the future. What was once the King shall become shunned and unwanted. Such is life.
 
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Gatehouse said:
Keep in mind that this thread was started because other mainstream manufacturers other than Ruger announced plans to begin producing rifles chambered in the NEW KING. That alone is more validation than any SAUM, RUM or WSSM got.
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actually son, you used to be able to purchase SAUM rifles in Ruger m77 & Savage models, and Ultra Mags in Savage, Sako, and maybe even Browning Abolt? WSSM only was in Abolt/M70
 
Gatehouse said:
I doubt it. I think it will be more like the 300WSM. Everyone predicted it's death, too. I recall man on CGN saying "300WSM? Better stock up on brass, since you won't be able to get ammo for it in 5 years" Now it's almost a decade later and you can buy 300WSM ammo in Canadian TIre:p
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Not likely. 90% of hunters can't handle and dislike the recoil and it's really not needed for anything in North America. The 300 WSM is far more versatile.

The 375 H&H was/is available in cheap rifles as the 375 Ruger is now. The recoil kept 99% of hunters away from it.

Most hunters on this continent have no need for a heavy recoiling gun with the trajectory of a 30/06. A short lived fad is all.
 
bearkilr said:
Not likely. 90% of hunters can't handle and dislike the recoil and it's really not needed for anything in North America. The 300 WSM is far more versatile.

The 375 H&H was/is available in cheap rifles as the 375 Ruger is now. The recoil kept 99% of hunters away from it.

Most hunters on this continent have no need for a heavy recoiling gun with the trajectory of a 30/06. A short lived fad is all.
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The yearning for black plastic will triumph over fear of recoil.
 
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