The NEW KING is taking off!
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troutseeker
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Interesting quote, I had to preserve it for posteriority.
I don't know if the feat you suggest is actually physically possible, Gate's melon is pretty big...Long live The King of .375's and burgers!
I just ordered a new custom on a CRF action in 375 H&H for our Africa hunt next may. Yes there is only one king, the H&H!Hello from remote Zimbabwe, yes, the internet's made it even here (satellite, at $3,700 US per year). Sitting under a thatch roof, on a laptop. On the conservancy here, been culling, and let me tell you there is only one king... the H&H. My god this cartridge just works. Flaming hot here, and the tapered case is working wonders on extraction, the fine dust causes chambering issues on some straight walled bottleneck cases as well. The H&H is the way to roll, folks here don't even know what the Ruger is.
I took a Cape Buffalo bull, massive at 1 ton live weight, with one shot, a 300gr TSX neck shot. Two more were put in his back as insurance, as the PH said, many a dead buffalo has got up and killed people. In fact, he hung onto for a minute or so. Also been culling Impala, the .375 works wonders on those tough little buggers. I can definitely see the need to use the H&H if coming here as well, as TONS of baggage goes missing coming here (4 borders between home and here), and your ammunition has to be packed separately in its own locked case and there is a VERY good chance it won't make it. .375 H&H is available everywhere here, if you ask for .375 Ruger, they'll still hand you H&H and think you're confused. For North America, sure the Ruger's fine, for Africa, at least in the backwoods like here, heck no! .375 Ruger may be the new prince, but never king.
Why are you thinking about my ass? Are you ghey?
troutseeker
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Not that there is anything wrong with that, of course. So now we have a King and a Queen, very nice!
hugh manuell
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The going rate is $50 per day plus $10 per round for ammo. For a two week safari that adds up to about $1,000. For that kind of money, I'll put up with the hassle and add a few days to my trip or another animal to the bag.
Hugh
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To each their own, the shots here, much to many folk's surprise, aren't easy. I've had every kind of covered shot, up slope and down slope, close and far, big and small targets, and it pays to know the gun intimately.
Ardent
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Congrats on your Buff!
There have been a number of reports from the Accurate Reloading (The webs premier African hunting forum) about supplies of .375 Ruger ammo showing up here and there. It's depends on where you are in Africa.
People take all sorts of cartridges to Africa to hunt all the time. Chances are if it's not .30-06, 7x57, .375 H&H or .458 WM and a few others, it's not sitting on the shelf at the local sporting emporium.
It doesn't stop people from taking their double rifle or bolt guns chambered in old, obsolete or exotic cartridges or new cartridges either. Somehow people have managed to hunt Africa using the NEW KING as well as just about every other cartridge under the hot African sun...
The .375 H&H is a great cartridge, but it's no longer the KING of the .375's....ALL HAIL THE 375 RUGER, THE NEW KING OF THE 375's!!
I'm smiling, I have to respect a man dedicated to his cause! The Ruger's a fine cartridge, just not for me, but it would be great in a nice old Mauser.
Johnn Peterson
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From a post by Gate on the HBC site, I think I found out what it took to make the 375 Ruger the new, 'King'. Apparently he put a ###### pill/tablet in his gun cabnet. I'm guessing that was what helped "bring up" the 375 Ruger to 'King' status.
Being offered in rifles form CZ and Howa already!
Won't be long before Remington and Winchester swallow their pride and stamp the Ruger name on their barrels, too.
Got me thinking of another 375 that was introduced in the late 70's to take the place of an old round that had been there done that. The 375 Winchester was introduced in the Model 94 to fix up whatever was wrong with the veteran 38-55. It was loaded with modern powders to higher pressure than the 38-55, (sound familiar). Marlin and Savage also chambered the round (as CZ and Howa are now with the 375 Ruger) but after a few years everyone dropped it. Marlin and H&R and a couple of replica outfits still chamber the 38-55 and it is the third best selling lever cartridge at present.
Keep in mind the rifle and ammo companies only need to keep your attention short term, in order to sell you new stuff now. They will have more new stuff to sell you when you realise the last new stuff you bought was identical to 100 year old stuff, only using a different name and slightly different packaging.
TE=peter338;4363655]Being offered in rifles form CZ and Howa already!
Won't be long before Remington and Winchester swallow their pride and stamp the Ruger name on their barrels, too.
Got me thinking of another 375 that was introduced in the late 70's to take the place of an old round that had been there done that. The 375 Winchester was introduced in the Model 94 to fix up whatever was wrong with the veteran 38-55. It was loaded with modern powders to higher pressure than the 38-55, (sound familiar). Marlin and Savage also chambered the round (as CZ and Howa are now with the 375 Ruger) but after a few years everyone dropped it. Marlin and H&R and a couple of replica outfits still chamber the 38-55 and it is the third best selling lever cartridge at present.
This should come as no surprise. Lever action aficionados are mostly traditionalists. They didn't want the .307 Winchester either.
Well that is the whole point of the NEW KING, isn't it? Give time proven performance in an trim, updated and better package.
Kinda glossing over the point that "Marlin and H&R and a couple of replica outfits still chamber the 38-55 and it is the third best selling lever cartridge at present." aren't you.
The 307 is a good analogy of the 375 Ruger as well. It was introduced to duplicate the 308 Win and usurp the proven 30-30, didn't work out so well for it. Every levergun manufacturer still chambers the 30-30 and all ammunition manufacturers load for the 30-30 and it is still the best selling lever cartridge. Pretty sure you can't even buy brass for the 307 now, same fate awaits the 375 Ruger.
The 307 is a good analogy of the 375 Ruger as well. It was introduced to duplicate the 308 Win and usurp the proven 30-30, didn't work out so well for it. Every levergun manufacturer still chambers the 30-30 and all ammunition manufacturers load for the 30-30 and it is still the best selling lever cartridge. Pretty sure you can't even buy brass for the 307 now, same fate awaits the 375 Ruger.
Johnn Peterson
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True enough although it is an asset to see new developments come through from time to time. The odd one achieves a degree of success such as some of the WSM's and many of the rest end up being another marketing "flash in the pan".
gunsmith1951
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Michael Jackson was popular too!
Just goes to show what I said before is true- Lever action fans tend to be traditionalists. They want 30-30, 45/70, 38-55 etc
The Winchester team misread the clientele for lever action rifles.They weren't planning on shooting deer at 250 yards, so why bother with a cartridge like a .307? And the 30-30 was so firmly entrenched in the traditions of the lever users that the 307 couldn't compete.
Conversely, the H&H isn't so firmly entrenched in the traditions of North American hunters. Sure, most have heard about it,but I bet less than 5% of North American hunters have actually even shot one!
Mostly this is because H&H rifles are expensive and heavy... and most hunters hunt deer. Buying most H&H's are out of the price range of "just because I like it" rifles for most guys. But bottom line is that we dont' have an H&H bolt action tradition in NA. And bolt action shooters tend to be much more progressive.
Enter the .375 Ruger, an affordable .375 with H&H power, and a new tradition is born.
HAW HAW HAW.....375 Ruger sales have been VERY strong. The NEW KINGisn'tgoing away any time soon. Most likely it will gradually take over from the H&H, just as the .300 WM did from the .300 H&H.
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