The NEW KING is taking off!

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Gatehouse said:
Just goes to show what I said before is true- Lever action fans tend to be traditionalists. They want 30-30, 45/70, 38-55 etc

The Winchester team misread the clientele for lever action rifles.They weren't planning on shooting deer at 250 yards, so why bother with a cartridge like a .307? And the 30-30 was so firmly entrenched in the traditions of the lever users that the 307 couldn't compete.

Conversely, the H&H isn't so firmly entrenched in the traditions of North American hunters. Sure, most have heard about it,but I bet less than 5% of North American hunters have actually even shot one!

Mostly this is because H&H rifles are expensive and heavy... and most hunters hunt deer. Buying most H&H's are out of the price range of "just because I like it" rifles for most guys. But bottom line is that we dont' have an H&H bolt action tradition in NA. And bolt action shooters tend to be much more progressive.

Enter the .375 Ruger, an affordable .375 with H&H power, and a new tradition is born.;)



HAW HAW HAW.....375 Ruger sales have been VERY strong. The NEW KINGisn'tgoing away any time soon. Most likely it will gradually take over from the H&H, just as the .300 WM did from the .300 H&H.
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Ahhhh.............does'nt your analogy about the 375 H&H also fit the Ruger? From what I've seen I can and have bought a brand name used 375 H&H for less than a used Ruger. And most hunters in North America still hunt deer. So without the need for such a powerful round how do you see it's numbers growing?
 
Woodbeef said:
Ahhhh.............does'nt your analogy about the 375 H&H also fit the Ruger? From what I've seen I can and have bought a brand name used 375 H&H for less than a used Ruger. And most hunters in North America still hunt deer. So without the need for such a powerful round how do you see it's numbers growing?
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I'm sure you can find used rifles in any price range, but most new H&H's are more expensive than a new 375 Ruger.

Most hunters still hunt deer, but the Ruger is an affordable option for those guys that like to have a 375 "just because I like it"

It's also a great choice for those hunters that want a little more horsepower for moose or bears or elk- Mostly because it's fun.;)
 
Gatehouse said:
I'm sure you can find used rifles in any price range, but most new H&H's are more expensive than a new 375 Ruger.

Most hunters still hunt deer, but the Ruger is an affordable option for those guys that like to have a 375 "just because I like it"

It's also a great choice for those hunters that want a little more horsepower for moose or bears or elk- Mostly because it's fun.;)
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After all of your posts just about every argument you come up with does nothing to differentiate the Ruger as a better choice than the Holland & Holland. Everything you post with the exception of action length is pretty much one is a duplicate of the other. So why is one that much superior to the other?
 
If you want to talk new, Remington's 375 UltraMag is bada$$. One thing is for sure the 375HH will always be the 375 King everthing else is just an after thaught. Look at how many manufacturers build HH guns and HH ammo, theirs no dipute the HH is the King.
 
Woodbeef said:
After all of your posts just about every argument you come up with does nothing to differentiate the Ruger as a better choice than the Holland & Holland. Everything you post with the exception of action length is pretty much one is a duplicate of the other. So why is one that much superior to the other?
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You haven't been paying attention, have you:p

It's attributes have been listed over and over....Maybe you need to go back and do some more reading;)
 
canadaman30 said:
If you want to talk new, Remington's 375 UltraMag is bada$$. One thing is for sure the 375HH will always be the 375 King everthing else is just an after thaught. Look at how many manufacturers build HH guns and HH ammo, theirs no dipute the HH is the King.
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And the .378 Weatherby and .375 Chey Tac offer even more velocity than the .375RUM....But velocity does not make a KING:dancingbanana:
 
Woodbeef said:
Just took a little trip to the Midway website. They list three loads for the 375 Ruger all from Hornady. The 375 H&H has 3 also,but it is 3 pages of ammo from many manufacturers.
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Wow, surprising that a cartridge that has been around for a century may have more loads for it than a relatively new on!:rolleyes:

More important is new rifle sales in the last couple of years. Rugers sales have been astounding....H&H sales- Not so much.:p
 
canadaman30 said:
If you want to talk new, Remington's 375 UltraMag is bada$$. One thing is for sure the 375HH will always be the 375 King everthing else is just an after thaught. Look at how many manufacturers build HH guns and HH ammo, theirs no dipute the HH is the King.
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True, but even above that on the 375 pile is the 378 Weatherby Magnum. In reality, the more calibers available for possible selection the better and I wish all the best of success to the developers. Time alone will determine the success and longevity of new comers like the 375 Ruger and 416 Ruger. However, my choice, if I was to get a 375, remains unchanged. The 375 H&H is the leader of the pack, the 378 Weatherby "King" of the heap and the remainder are 'other possible options'.
 
How many manufacturers make ammo for 375Ruger, how many manufacturers make ammo for 375HH. Rifles alike. And yes the 375HH stands high above any other 375 when it comes to popularity around the world. :owned:
 
canadaman30 said:
How many manufacturers make ammo for 375Ruger, how many manufacturers make ammo for 375HH. Rifles alike. And yes the 375HH stands high above any other 375 when it comes to popularity around the world. :owned:
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You are stating the obvious- A cartridge with a 95 year head start is going to be more widespread- For now.

However, new rifle sales in 375 Ruger have far surpassed new rifle sales for the H&H.

ALL HAIL THE NEW KING!!

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