What i was getting at is, i was under the impression that there had to be the actual "pistols" in Canada, hence the 'readily available" thing with the LAR15 mags. If there was no LAR15 pistols in Canada, we would not have LAR15 mags in Canada.
Notice to S&W M&P 15-22 Rifle Owners
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What i was getting at is, i was under the impression that there had to be the actual "pistols" in Canada, hence the 'readily available" thing with the LAR15 mags. If there was no LAR15 pistols in Canada, we would not have LAR15 mags in Canada.
Maybe. Or maybe the RCMP will decide that any 25 rnd mag that fits a Charger should be prohibited. My 9mm pistol came with a 10 rnd mag. That doesn't mean an aftermarket 16 rnd mag is OK, just because it wasn't original equipment. If the RCMP decide the LAR is circumventing the spirit of the law they'll find a way to prohibit that too. Relying on these hair splitting distinctions to try to protect the LAR is a bad long term policy.
Scott Max Danger
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- Saskatchewan
soo long story short what mags can i use and where can i get them ?
I just saw a dealer here advertise 2 without mags.
Being the devil's advocate for a moment.....
There are greater than 10 round aftermarket magazines that are readily available that will fit and function in both the Ruger carbine and pistol.
A case could be made that these are therefore pistol magazines, and a 10 round limit be applied.
Is this likely? I don't know. Could it be challenged? I don't know. Reclassification of a firearm can be challenged in a reference hearing. Is there any provision for a reference hearing for something other than a firearm. I don't know.
I doubt that the RCMP will reverse the LAR or Beretta rulings. They are specific and reflect the letter of the law.
Sure, and a responsible dealer is not going to sell a pinned 10/25 without being sure that this isn't going to get the customer in hot water. And no dealer is going to have an inventory of 10 rounders at present.
If a shooter accepts the 10 round cap, or is prepared to gamble a bit, this could be a good time to buy a 15-22.
As far as that goes, no responsible dealer is going to sell anything that is in a grey area, if there is a chance that the customer might wind up in a bind.
- Location
- Fraser Valley BC
Good luck to him.
Restricted, neutered mags and questionable reliability?
Who would buy one of these?
You, and all the others in the thread with their panties in a bunch over this.
personally i do not see the appeal to a rimfire firearm. Unless you have a ######, and/or are a child.
#1bcshooter
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Same applies to the S&W MP1522 mag as the ruling is specific to that mag by part #
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- Pile of Bones, SK
I understand how they are applying the law to the 15-22. The whole thing is stupid to begin with for sure, but let's not get into that.
What I have beef about is that the RCMP can just change classifications whenever they want. It seems to me that once a firearm or mag is approved for sale in Canada it should stick (unless it's done through an OIC). I think that's what we should be pushing for here.
Obviously we can't just take away the RCMP's ability to do this easily, but we should push to work with them for a better framework that ensures "proper/correct" designations before they are sold to consumers, not long after they are available to the public!
I realize something like this is already in place (I don't know what the actual procedure is, someone can enlighten me if they know), but whatever it is, it's not working worth a damn.
Just my thoughts.
What I have beef about is that the RCMP can just change classifications whenever they want. It seems to me that once a firearm or mag is approved for sale in Canada it should stick (unless it's done through an OIC). I think that's what we should be pushing for here.
Obviously we can't just take away the RCMP's ability to do this easily, but we should push to work with them for a better framework that ensures "proper/correct" designations before they are sold to consumers, not long after they are available to the public!
I realize something like this is already in place (I don't know what the actual procedure is, someone can enlighten me if they know), but whatever it is, it's not working worth a damn.
Just my thoughts.
Hokus Grey
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You, and all the others in the thread with their panties in a bunch over this.
personally i do not see the appeal to a rimfire firearm. Unless you have a ######, and/or are a child.
I am neither a woman, nor a child, thank you very much. A little more respect would be in order.
I bought the M&P 15-22 because it is a dedicated .22 cal AR platform that fits and functions in every way like an AR. I use it for doing tac-rifle shoots and plinking and it's a great gun. Mine's got almost 2000 rds down with very few issues.
Sad.
Yet again, I'll write my MP and the PM. I'll complain until my fingers are sore and my throat is hoarse.
Just another BS change.
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Agreed very much so....
...as things are now, it's like playing hockey when the net is constantly moved about - at will - by an unethical opponent.....
Exactly. Since S&W clearly advertise the mags as being for BOTH the rifle and pistol, it could easily be ruled that they are rifle mags that can be used in the pistol, too. That interpretation doesn't fit the control freak, anti agenda though, so we get screwed again.
While you are writing to your MP, suggest that all rimfires be exempted from our ridiculous capacity limits.
Mark
Personally, I think... well I can't say that. Well then I also think.... can't say that either. Can I say that I wish I bought a whole bunch of those magazines a year ago before I ever bought one of the guns, just to have in case I ever do have the gun? Nope, can't say that either... so I didn't.
Jdman, I don't think there is the interest or will in the CPC to do anything aside from eliminating the long gun registry. Some CPC MP's do seem to understand how offensive C-68 is in its entirety, but the vast majority don't.
All of our firearms laws are bunk. The only thing that has possibly had an effect is licensing and it SEEMS to have helped reduce accidents due to the safety course required to get a PAL. No one can prove it for sure, but the signs are there. Everything else has done SFA for public safety or violent crime.
Mark
