Burlington gun club...5 month wait minimum!!

The six most DANGEROUS words ever to muttered by the BoD of BBRC are as follows " We've always done it that way"

50+ years of success is troubling to some. But not to us.

No offence to you Skeetgunner, sounds like you are there to the end,

Typically only Wednesdays, Fridays, Saturdays and monthly meetings. :cool:

do us all a favor, if you're the last one out, please turn off the lights:bangHead:

The lights and heat are on motion sensors and timers. They look after themselves. :p You get nice things like that when your club is more than just four guys in a gravel pit. :yingyang:

You can repeat the lie of BRRC being in trouble or being a bureaucratic/political club all you want. Do it often enough, some dim bulb might even believe you; lemmings always do. In the end, its still a lie. Our membership and accomplishments speak for themselves. The club is strong, well funded, protected from urban encroachment and is still accepting new members. Its an enviable position for most clubs anywhere.

Our biggest negative is that we are located on land-locked park land. We can't physically expand the facility to increase the length of the range or add a 24/7 plinking gallery.
 
I believe they only allow 22lr for rifles, but all pistols are ok. I may be wrong.

From the Target Sports site:
We are rated for and authorized to shoot firearms up to .500 AE (very big) and 12ga Shotguns.

We also are authorized by the Ontario Chief Firearms Officer (CFO) to allow shooters to shoot .223 and .308 Winchester rifles as long as they use our supplied frangible ammunition.

The only other restriction I think is no shotgun slugs.
 
I just read the FAQ about joining BRRC. It doesn't sound so BS to me. With 1700 members, I can assume it can get pretty busy during peak hours. 24/7 is key with no nanny rule. I like but way too far for me, so BRRC is not even part of my decision making but I would scope it out if I lived closer. If anyone wants 24/7 and don't live in the west end. Go scope out Marksmen Club, north of Oshawa. The indoor range is heated too but it's not during club hours. Get ready to drop $1 for 10 mins of heat (according to what I was told).

It's the 5 months current wait to join that sounds bad. But with 1700 members, it must be doing something right. TMC might have the same issue (I don't know for sure). They might be only accepting members 2x a year. But if you have a LTATT already, they can take you in any time with short orientation.

Oh well... every club has some sort of BS rule we don't like. It really takes time to find the right club. I had to try 3 clubs out before realizing what I really need or avoid. For the $$$ I paid for my first club, I ended up not renewing and ended up finding 2 other clubs to meet my needs which the first club cannot anyway. Total price paying now is same as the first club and process to become full member at my other two clubs were same day b/c I had LTATT and they accepted as being a current member of another club(s) to be in good standing.

This sport it ain't cheap especially having to belong to two clubs but I'm not about to give up my shooting habits. :)
 
With 1700 members, I can assume it can get pretty busy during peak hours.

Pistol, IPSC, Rifle, and Juniors are heavily attended sections with a core of regular shooters. Off hours, its cyclical.

I like but way too far for me, so BRRC is not even part of my decision making but I would scope it out if I lived closer.

If you live west of Yong Street, we're only about 30min away in good traffic.

BTW, for anyone planning to attend, the last safety course of 2010 runs next weekend, Dec 18-19. Its booked full, but there are always no-shows that close to Christmas, so there should be some walk-in spots available. I'd advise being there early.
 
Pistol, IPSC, Rifle, and Juniors are heavily attended sections with a core of regular shooters. Off hours, its cyclical.



If you live west of Yong Street, we're only about 30min away in good traffic.

BTW, for anyone planning to attend, the last safety course of 2010 runs next weekend, Dec 18-19. Its booked full, but there are always no-shows that close to Christmas, so there should be some walk-in spots available. I'd advise being there early.

I live in Markham. According to google maps. I'm almost 100km away. TMC is about 40km. Good thing I like my current east end clubs. Wish I was 10mins drive to the range like some of you people here. :)
 
Pistol, IPSC, Rifle, and Juniors are heavily attended sections with a core of regular shooters. Off hours, its cyclical.



If you live west of Yong Street, we're only about 30min away in good traffic.

BTW, for anyone planning to attend, the last safety course of 2010 runs next weekend, Dec 18-19. Its booked full, but there are always no-shows that close to Christmas, so there should be some walk-in spots available. I'd advise being there early.

w/o posting which date and time specifically it won't do any walkins any good.
 
Pistol, IPSC, Rifle, and Juniors are heavily attended sections with a core of regular shooters. Off hours, its cyclical.



If you live west of Yong Street, we're only about 30min away in good traffic.


I've become a regular on Monday nights, and enjoy the event, but it's a pain to get there.

Traffic is the major downside. I live in west end Toronto, earliest I can head out is about 5:45pm, and the drive is at least 45-60 minutes that time of day.
 
I have been a member of BRRC for exactly one year. When I initially looked at joining I had much the same attitude. After realizing that sometimes in life you must jump the hoops, I gritted my teeth and dove in. I took my club level safety course in Jan of 09 one week later I finished my observation nights, my membership was read into the feb minutes one week later and two weeks following my LTATT was in my hands. One month of compliance and I was happily shooting at all hours. Everyone was welcoming. I even sat in on three or four BoD meetings to get the lay of the land. Skeet and the Wed night crew welcomed me with open arms ( I am not a great shot or interested in scores just shooting and having fun, which didn't put anyone out) they all helped me to enjoy rifle night ( I don't get out there lately and miss it). Other members provided valuable reloading help all with a smile and great patience. I will be renewing soon.
 
w/o posting which date and time specifically it won't do any walkins any good.

Uh...its in the post and even quoted a couple of times. Dec 18-19. Most people doing a walk in would be familiar with the times and location, so I didn't add that to the original. And its on the club forum and club calendar.

Now who owes who a beer? :p
 
Uh...its in the post and even quoted a couple of times. Dec 18-19. Most people doing a walk in would be familiar with the times and location, so I didn't add that to the original. And its on the club forum and club calendar.

Now who owes who a beer? :p

I agree it is.. but that does not mean some out there would fail to find it :p

Therefore you now owe me TWO beers! :cheers:
 
Truth well said -

Put on some long johns and a coat and get out to Silverdale and have some fun !!!!!! Dress for the weather
You can have your vehicle right where you shoot. You can get warm around the fire in the steel building down at the ranges. You have clays, archery, handgun and longer distance then any around the area. Run by and membership wise the most friendly helpful people you will ever meet. I drive around 4 other closer clubs to get there.

Notice how many negative posts about about brrc ?
Notice how few negative posts about Silverdale ?
Notice how many posts skeetgunner has defending brrc ?
Notice how few posts defending Silverdale ?
Do the math -

The answer is obvious -

:ar15:
swingerlh.gif
 
I have been a member of BRRC for exactly one year. When I initially looked at joining I had much the same attitude. After realizing that sometimes in life you must jump the hoops, I gritted my teeth and dove in. I took my club level safety course in Jan of 09 one week later I finished my observation nights, my membership was read into the feb minutes one week later and two weeks following my LTATT was in my hands. One month of compliance and I was happily shooting at all hours. Everyone was welcoming. I even sat in on three or four BoD meetings to get the lay of the land. Skeet and the Wed night crew welcomed me with open arms ( I am not a great shot or interested in scores just shooting and having fun, which didn't put anyone out) they all helped me to enjoy rifle night ( I don't get out there lately and miss it). Other members provided valuable reloading help all with a smile and great patience. I will be renewing soon.

That is all fine and dandy, but when we are trying so hard to promote this sport that the majority wants to take away from us, we need to do what we can to ensure new shooters are accepted and introduced tot he sport as quick as can do, the old boy fudds could care less about the future, and the clubs that make it a long drawn out process are the same, simplify and stream line the system, do not make it more difficult.
 
A newbies perspective

We are our own worst enemies. Burlington is a "safer" gun club I suppose? The stigma and the bull$hit in the firearms community is stifling.

We are Wendy's best allies.

:agree:

Reminds me of an olympic oaring team brawling and beating each other with the paddles while the antis who seem to have their stuff together go sailing by to the finish line and victory each and every time.:mad:

Sure wish an organization with a genuine and overriding interest in our fight rather than their own internal goals and agendas like the nra would start up in Canada.

I'd join in a heartbeat.

The problems at Burlington are just a case in point of a much broader issue.

It appears that Canadian gun owners are fighting but mostly with each other and not the antis. :mad:

Sometimes newbies who have not become emersed in the issues have a clearer perspective.
 
Notice how many negative posts about about brrc ?
Notice how few negative posts about Silverdale ?
Notice how many posts skeetgunner has defending brrc ?
Notice how few posts defending Silverdale ?
Do the math -

The answer is obvious -

It certainly is. But its not the answer you'd expect. If new shooters weren't frustrated with our admission process and posting rants about it here on CGN, would they even know that Silverdale exists? In aprox 80% of the cases (not scientic, just cocktail napkin math), RangeBurlington was their first choice. There's a reason for that. Given our location in the western GTA/GNA, I wonder what effect streamlining admission would have on other ranges membership base? We really need to get a GIS guy to crunch some usage patterns and demographics for us.

If you take a close look at the negative comments about RB (and not just in this thread), many of them are from out of province; people that have never been members and are relying on hearsay. The really ironic ones are from the Quebec members. How's "Law 9" working out for you boys?

we need to do what we can to ensure new shooters are accepted and introduced tot he sport as quick as can do,

We're growing an average of 240+ shooters per year, for the last three years. And we've implemented retention policies to reduce our churn rate; helping members to say with the club. Family, spousal and Junior memberships are up too. Our gross annual growth rate is bigger than some clubs and ranges total membership base. Three years ago, we'd lose more members due to churn than some other ranges had total members.

Its all well and good to accuse RB of being a bureaucratic, political, or Fudd club. When you're one of the clubs at the top of the pyramid, you expect to get some shots taken at you. But at the end of the day, the question remains, "How's your club/range doing?" There are clubs where you have to buy shares. There are clubs where you have to shoot on probation for a year. There are clubs where you can only shoot once a week, or during daylight hours, or only with another member present. There are clubs that cap their total membership or cap specific section membership. And there are clubs that cost hundreds of dollars more per year, for less access and shooting time. That's not our policy or approach. We are assisting new shooters into the sport as quickly as we can, while maintaining an appropriate "standard of care" and due diligence.
 
Last edited:
I'm a member of both Burlington and Silverdale.

The worst part of Burlington is the weekday prime time taken by disciplines. It was suggested to switch discipline shooting to every other week to allow us serfs who do not want to shot any discipline some prime shooting time but no go.

Seems only fair right? NOT!!!!
 
While personally I have no problem with the way it is currently done since I work afternoons I can see where this might be an issue for people doing the 9to5. Personally I had a hell of a time getting the observation nights done and really an issue for Tuesday nights. But I can she what your saying about teh alternating nights.
 
We're growing an average of 240+ shooters per year, for the last three years. And we've implemented retention policies to reduce our churn rate; helping members to say with the club. Family, spousal and Junior memberships are up too. Our gross annual growth rate is bigger than some clubs and ranges total membership base. Three years ago, we'd lose more members due to churn than some other ranges had total members.

Its all well and good to accuse RB of being a bureaucratic, political, or Fudd club. When you're one of the clubs at the top of the pyramid, you expect to get some shots taken at you. But at the end of the day, the question remains, "How's your club/range doing?" There are clubs where you have to buy shares. There are clubs where you have to shoot on probation for a year. There are clubs where you can only shoot once a week, or during daylight hours, or only with another member present. There are clubs that cap their total membership or cap specific section membership. And there are clubs that cost hundreds of dollars more per year, for less access and shooting time. That's not our policy or approach. We are assisting new shooters into the sport as quickly as we can, while maintaining an appropriate "standard of care" and due diligence.

A little touchy are we!!!!! All I did was quote, I was not in my reply referring to your club in particular, so do not take is so personal, I am talking in general, there are a lot of clubs that have year long periods to get membership and things like that I just do not understand. When a new member comes to my club, we process them right away, we start with the Club Level Safety course as soon as they can take it, even if it is one on one, so be it, that is what you have to do to get them in, and then once all is complete, we process for the ATT.
 
A little touchy are we!!!!! All I did was quote, I was not in my reply referring to your club in particular, so do not take is so personal, I am talking in general, there are a lot of clubs that have year long periods to get membership and things like that I just do not understand. When a new member comes to my club, we process them right away, we start with the Club Level Safety course as soon as they can take it, even if it is one on one, so be it, that is what you have to do to get them in, and then once all is complete, we process for the ATT.

I like the sound of that! :) What club would this be? I am hoping to join one in your area ASAP.
 
Back
Top Bottom