Self Defense Gun

[R700]

By the sounds of it from your post Tinkerbell, it seems your family was murdered. I am sorry.life is hard for you. I hope you all the best.I ain't afraid of midnight dwellers though. I am CF. I am all the defence i need. Check out HMV Tinkerbell, they're blowing out old Bruce Lee movies and Harry Potter Movies. Learn the kung fu skills needed so this atrocity doesn't repeat and learn the wizard spells to bring back the deceased. Flame on, flame on. I will burn all day long. That's my right. i defend freedoms so i can say what i want from the safety of my non personal defence weapon system household.Kkkkkaaaaarrrrraaatttttteeee Cccccchhhhhhooooppppppppppppp.(karate chop)

ps Tinkerbell... I man the f@ck up for the both us and do take a stand, especially for people like you, Tinkerbell.

 

[Juster]

honest answer, any gun with a light rail and attached weapon light like a surefire x300 or tlr-1 or M3.... in any resonable caliber, 9mm/40/45.

Yup, remember that 90% of home defence events won't involve shots being fired. But a light is important, even if you don't have a rail. Self-defence is still legal, despite the chorus of Alan Rock worshippers. My brother, brother-in-law and father-in-law survived several firearm related murder attempts (the wrong person got killed on a couple of occasions).

 

[condomboy]

it's also not a matter of which gun you're thinking, it's about which ammo you choose to use in it.

 

[Sam Fisher]

these are the kinda posts that get flamed and to the original poster, c'mon this is the kinda sh@t that gives pistol users a bad rap.100% of the responses are going to be from peoples mouths who have never needed to use a firearm in self defence and are getting home defence tips from youtube.Try some kung fu lessons. The last i looked you live in canada... not the province of Kandahar. No matter how hard your hood is, nothing a nice lock and an alarm system can't fix.

Next time you register your personal defence weapon system, run that by the CFO so we can get people like you to do the right thing and turn your paranoid owning firearms in. Lay off the 6 oclock news and if things are that bad in your area where you need to "cap some @ss in your sleep" then rent some chuck norris videos and practice high kicks. I will always flame these posts. Shame on all how respond with advice on pistols for home defence

The Supreme Court of Canada has acknowledged firearms may be used for self defence but the ownership and purchase is regulated by firearms law. So while one may not be able to purchase a handgun for the purpose of self defence one may be used for that purpose. The present minister of public safety has also acknowledged that Canadians may use firearms for self defence.

An example is the jeweler in BC who saved his wife's life when two gun wielding violent criminals tried to rob them. He shot in self defence and wasn't prosecuted, sorry no one has better locks and alarms than a jeweler.

I appreciate your personal experience leads you to believe a good lock and alarm will prevent violent home invasion but that has not been the experience of others.
At this time gun owners are being specifically targeted for home invasions one can only guess where the crooks are getting the info.

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=686850

People engaging in home invasions do have counter measures for good locks and alarms. It maybe taboo to talk about home defence but what is being discussed isn't unlawful. It is one of the few gun freedoms we have, the fact your gun may be in use in the home (un loaded of course).

 

[Sam Fisher]

Shame on you for being a quisling and bowing to get you and your family killed when you had the tools at hand to stop it.

there is nothing illegal about keeping an "unloaded" properly secured handgun at the ready with a loaded magazine close by, there is no canadian law that forbids the usage of a firearm to protect one selfs life or the lives of your loved ones....

when your family is laying on the ground bleeding out because it took the cops 10 minutes to respond to your 911 call, and an additional 8-10 for the paramedics to arrive on scene and the scene to be determined safe, well then you may rethink your stance.

seriously, it is people like you that have given us this nanny state where we expect to be protected by a reactionary police force.... man the #### up and take control of your own self protection.

Well said

 

[Sam Fisher]

By the sounds of it from your post Tinkerbell, it seems your family was murdered. I am sorry.life is hard for you. I hope you all the best.I ain't afraid of midnight dwellers though. I am CF. I am all the defence i need. Check out HMV Tinkerbell, they're blowing out old Bruce Lee movies and Harry Potter Movies. Learn the kung fu skills needed so this atrocity doesn't repeat and learn the wizard spells to bring back the deceased. Flame on, flame on. I will burn all day long. That's my right. i defend freedoms so i can say what i want from the safety of my non personal defence weapon system household.Kkkkkaaaaarrrrraaatttttteeee Cccccchhhhhhooooppppppppppppp.(karate chop)

ps Tinkerbell... I man the f@ck up for the both us and do take a stand, especially for people like you, Tinkerbell.

Another home invasion:

http://www.640toronto.com/Channels/Reg/NewsLocal/Story.aspx?ID=1631440

These folks must have had crappy door locks.

Here's another link to the same story:

@CBCNews: Brutal Toronto home invasion shakes family http://t.co/OriR0v5i

 

[tactical870]

"OK" I am looking for some advice, I have owned alot of hand guns in my day like so many of you, shooting for sport and play, but I have been resently reminded that each of us needs to be prepare (No worries, but could have been really bad) So I am asking you for help. Looking for a hand gun for self defence (In My Home) (If I ever need it!!!!) Need a recomendation to serve the purpose. Would like the solution for low light conditions as well. Thanks for your time in advance......

Personally I don't think there's much better than a 1911 myself but I have to admit my go to gun in an emergency is a Beretta 92 9mm with a pair of mags loaded with Black Talons. I like the additional mag capacity of the Beretta and the shape of the mags means I can load and reload easily without fumbling. The factory sights are excellent for close range (in your house) but I don't particularly like them on paper. If you'd like to try one pm me and I'll meet you down at the range with mine.

 

[Beer_drinker]

Another home invasion:

http://www.640toronto.com/Channels/Reg/NewsLocal/Story.aspx?ID=1631440

These folks must have had crappy door locks.

Here's another link to the same story:

@CBCNews: Brutal Toronto home invasion shakes family http://t.co/OriR0v5i

I think you just got trolled...

 

[bugsy_n_blue]

honest answer, any gun with a light rail and attached weapon light like a surefire x300 or tlr-1 or M3.... in any resonable caliber, 9mm/40/45.

If I was allowed I would prefer a glock 17 with nightsites and a Surefire X200 attached with a bladetech paddle holster for weapon/light combo.....

I definitely agree with this one. But if you do not have a rail, a small tactical light might be handy. Regardless of the caliber, shot placement is the key. A .22 pistol can be as lethal as a .45 cal. Unfortunately, here in Canada we are not allowed concealed carry or even to keep a loaded and locked firearm at home. Just have them clean, accessible with your keys or combination, ready to load. And hopefully, no need to use them. Stay safe!

 

[newshot]

I think the gun is the easy part, most guns are reliable. The shooter is the challenge. Practice shooting under pressure, from cover and on the move would be more important is my guess. Just a guess as I have never been on the old "two way range" myself.

 

[terrybeb]

By the sounds of it from your post Tinkerbell, it seems your family was murdered. I am sorry.life is hard for you. I hope you all the best.I ain't afraid of midnight dwellers though. I am CF. I am all the defence i need. Check out HMV Tinkerbell, they're blowing out old Bruce Lee movies and Harry Potter Movies. Learn the kung fu skills needed so this atrocity doesn't repeat and learn the wizard spells to bring back the deceased. Flame on, flame on. I will burn all day long. That's my right. i defend freedoms so i can say what i want from the safety of my non personal defence weapon system household.Kkkkkaaaaarrrrraaatttttteeee Cccccchhhhhhooooppppppppppppp.(karate chop)

ps Tinkerbell... I man the f@ck up for the both us and do take a stand, especially for people like you, Tinkerbell.

What a lovey condescending attitude you have....... nuff said.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I_Ds2ytz4o&feature=related

 

[Jesuswon]

shotgun is best choice,if your really that worried that they are coming,just move or get yourself a dog..,unlike hollywood real gunfights suck,
for the answers your looking for i suggest an american gun or survivalist website,

 

[TinkerBell]

I am CF. I am all the defence i need. <snip> That's my right. i defend freedoms so i can say what i want from the safety of my non personal defence weapon system </snip>

ps Tinkerbell... I man the f@ck up for the both us and do take a stand, especially for people like you, Tinkerbell.

so your canadian forces and you man up for both of us... your armed at the very least with a c7 rifle or bigger... and you brag here that you man up for both of us. and that Karate will defeat all attackers.... have you read the news as of late ?? gangbangers are doing home invasion wearing body armor and carrying weapons, at the very least I want to have an equal footing weapon wise with the people attacking me.

I am old and disabled, karate fighting will not work for me, same as it will not work for my grandparents or my parents.... I can show someone how to reliably operate a firearm within a few range sessions, martial arts takes a lifetime to master.

I think the gun is the easy part, most guns are reliable. The shooter is the challenge. Practice shooting under pressure, from cover and on the move would be more important is my guess. Just a guess as I have never been on the old "two way range" myself.

do some defensive pistol shooting in your area if available, we practice no light and low light shooting in out indoor range... both with weapon lights and handheld flashlights, we have also done the above scenarios with a "telephone" in hand to show how hard it is.

the end all be all of your home is going to be get all your family in one place, do not activly seek the attacker... protect your own and bunker in and await a police response.....

 

[NavyCuda]

I've got my Sig 1911 with a TLR-1s on the rail. Two magazines of Hornady Tap beside it in my easy to access safe. I have a large dog to give me enough time to get armed.

The wife prefers her P226 in 9mm, so there are two magazines of hand loaded hollow points for it in the safe as well.

 

[ALLS London]

Another point of view: Armed response aside (lots of fine answers here, I have nothing to add about that), slow them down as long as possible: good doors, GREAT locks, and tough frames will slow them down long enough to get your safe open load and respond.

Something else I suggest: plan and train on your response. If you have kids in the house (like I do), get them safe first. My plan includes putting myself between my kids and the points of entry to the house, while 911 is called and strong verbal commands are issued to leave now and don't come back. It's my hope that when I'm yelling at these hypothetical invaders, that the 911 dispatcher will be hearing/recording it, and that will be useful in court that I didn't just start blasting, but saw a real threat, gave lots of chances for them to back off, drop the weapons etc, before anyone gets hurt. Self defence is as much a verbal art as a physical one.

 

[plinker 777]

...OP; first off I've noticed you live in Peterborough so relax. Get some professional help and perhaps some medication would help as well.
Also, for your sake I hope your neighbor doesn't knock on your door at an inappropriate time {or when your having some fit of paranoia} and you aerate him or her, because my friend you have just given a Crown attorney more than enough ammo {pun intended} to lock you up for a very long time. This thread and threads like it are akin to: "how to make a bomb", "how much rat poison will it take to kill my wife"......if you were to ever carry out what your talking about, you my friend are terminally fu<ked!!
'K that's about all the time I have for this nonsense.{the dime loads and giving money comments were funny}....on to some adult conversation.

Ta,Ta...good luck to all the folks in Peterbourough

 

[Paatz]

I bought the wife an SKS to keep by the bed.
She likes the idea of something with a bayonet, and a large wooden stock with which to pummel an assailant when you're out of ammo. Shotgun gets the thumbs up from her too.
Pistols and revolvers are just too complicated legally, and not as easy to hang on to when firing, and probably more easily wrestled away from a woman who may be reluctant to actually use it.

So the the OP must have asked a "hypothetical" question regarding using handguns.
My choice would be a .45.

 

[Sam Fisher]

...OP; first off I've noticed you live in Peterborough so relax. Get some professional help and perhaps some medication would help as well.
Also, for your sake I hope your neighbor doesn't knock on your door at an inappropriate time {or when your having some fit of paranoia} and you aerate him or her, because my friend you have just given a Crown attorney more than enough ammo {pun intended} to lock you up for a very long time. This thread and threads like it are akin to: "how to make a bomb", "how much rat poison will it take to kill my wife"......if you were to ever carry out what your talking about, you my friend are terminally fu<ked!!
'K that's about all the time I have for this nonsense.{the dime loads and giving money comments were funny}....on to some adult conversation.

Ta,Ta...good luck to all the folks in Peterbourough

Making bombs and conspiring to poison/kill someone is illegal, nothing being discussed here is illegal.

Home invasion type robberies are usually planned in advance because the victim has something the criminal has indentified and wants.
Ones geographical location does not necessarily prevent them from being targeted. In fact living in a nice area and having nice things could cause someone to be specifically targeted.

This couple resides in Dunnville, hardly a hotbed of criminal activity. According to your logic home invasions don't happen in nice areas.

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ttp://www.thestar.com/news/crime/article/1106779--two-seniors-survive-violent-home-robbery-in-dunnville?bn=1

Police are seeking three suspects after a violent home robbery in Haldimand County.

According to the OPP, three males entered a rural residence in Dunnville on Highway 3 around 1:10 am Saturday through an unlocked door.

The males confronted the home owners in their bedroom. One struck a 59-year-old male before the three restrained him and his 64-year-old wife.

The three searched the house before stealing a quantity of jewelry, two long guns and a handgun before fleeing the scene.

The victims freed themselves and were treated for non-life-threatening injuries which did not require hospitalization.

All three suspects are described as white males, 5’10”, seen with covered faces and dark clothing. Two are approximately 180-190 lbs., one wearing a black and white plaid jacket, dark pants, a dark hood and a toque. The third suspect is heavy-set at 230-240 lbs.

Anyone with information should call the OPP at 1-888-310-1122 or Crime Stoppers anonymously at 1-800-222-TIPS (8477).
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If you don't like the thread or don't understand the complexities of this type of crime you don't have to participate.

 

[stratosonic]

Personally I don't think there's much better than a 1911 myself but I have to admit my go to gun in an emergency is a Beretta 92 9mm with a pair of mags loaded with Black Talons. I like the additional mag capacity of the Beretta and the shape of the mags means I can load and reload easily without fumbling. The factory sights are excellent for close range (in your house) but I don't particularly like them on paper. If you'd like to try one pm me and I'll meet you down at the range with mine.

I say 9mm. I have a 1911 and it's a very loud gun. I wonder if it might cause permanent hearing loss if fired in a confined space such as a bedroom. Maybe that concern sounds dumb when one's life is in danger. Plus, you have the 10 round capacity. And as for advocating martial arts in a life or death situation when you can legally have a gun for protection, is that like taking a knife to a gun fight? R700, not everyone is in the prime of life and as fit as Chuck Norris. And home invaders seem to love easy targets as in "old people". And as for martial arts, I would be more interested in Krav Maga, the no-nonsense, take-no-prisoners self defense system used by the Israeli Defence Forces.

 

[ruger73]

A short barrelled shotgun and some buck shot... And sleep tight!