New M-14 range report FAIL
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mosinmaster
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So if the shorty can survive the proof test, does that mean it will 'never' blow up under NORMAL circumstances? Only if the bore is plugged or the ammo fed is double charged for example it will fly off? Also, if the barrel survives the proof load, it means that the barrel wasn't over-torqued?
does shipped since January mean since January 1st or...?
I am asking since I received one last week and haven't had a chance to even clean it yet...
These guns come oily, but there is no cosmoline at all.
Scary stuff. Don't these guns come jamb-packed full of cosmoline? I'll admit I didn't read every response, but could some cosmo in the barrel be a possible factor?
I still think the Norc M14's are tons of gun for the money, but it kind of makes a used one off the EE (and especially one that has been checked over and/or tweaked by one of the experiences M14'ers) look that much more attractive than a new unit. Let someone else proof it with a box or two.
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Rocket Surgery
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Man I am impressed, it only took a few guns before this vendor started testing the guns instead of recalling them. At first I didn't want to order one, because the bayonet lug couldn't accept a bayonet, but now I'm on the fence. Even though the stocks don't fit well, the barrel could fly off, and the bayonets don't fit on the lug it's still great value for a 308 semi under $500.00, I'm only after the receiver anyway!
I'm with you on the Tikka thing, the Chinese forged method is probably better than some discount brand Finnish product.
Will there be any returns that I can buy at a discounted price?
Got mine in the mail today. Opened up the box about 1/2 hour ago, bag was open & brass on the bolt face. Right on!!
I wasn't too concerned but the old lady's feeling alot better about pulling the trigger now.
Thanks CanAm for the great service, Canada Post was pretty quick too.
mosinmaster
CGN frequent flyer
Pictures and your thoughts about your new gun please!
I'll see if the old lady can get some pics posted. Sure is coated in oil! Trigger feels good, smooth. Getting the mag out was tough the 1st time but this is my 1st M14, it's alot easier now. So far I like it.
After reading another thread on this site, I'll have to say this thing is pretty light.
More BS propaganda. I have 3 and no problems. Keep telling yourself how the Springfields are inferior. I see problematic Norinco threads pop up here all the time. I guess that forged reciever didn't help a whole lot did it?
Practice saying Baaa baaaaa like the rest of the sheep.
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No the chinese are not stupid people. They let you test fire it.
I remember when I first joined the Gunnutz site (great site and great people by the way) there seemed to be an issue of the front sight out of alignment, a little bit crooked. I know I saw a few in stores like that and left them. Anyways, most of the posts advised to take a clinic to learn how to do properly or take to a 'smith with experience in M14's. Good advice.
Then about a week ago there was this post about some guy wanting to do-it-yourself to tighten the barrel.
Who knows, maybe the Chinese saw some of the concerns and tightened themselves so that the sights were straight. Maybe it could be a dozen other things. My Poly had straight sights back in 2009 and shoots like a dream.
One thing I do know is that the rifles issued in WWII had proof marks, they were tested. Modern rifles are supposed to be proof tested too. The Chinese...well, that'd be suspect as to whether they proof test at all. It's great to see CAN-AM taking that step. I know that if I am wanting a shorty of this manufacturing batch, I will buy only from Can-Am, as they have tested it. Even if they were to charge a little extra, that is definitely WORTH it.
Then about a week ago there was this post about some guy wanting to do-it-yourself to tighten the barrel.
Who knows, maybe the Chinese saw some of the concerns and tightened themselves so that the sights were straight. Maybe it could be a dozen other things. My Poly had straight sights back in 2009 and shoots like a dream.
One thing I do know is that the rifles issued in WWII had proof marks, they were tested. Modern rifles are supposed to be proof tested too. The Chinese...well, that'd be suspect as to whether they proof test at all. It's great to see CAN-AM taking that step. I know that if I am wanting a shorty of this manufacturing batch, I will buy only from Can-Am, as they have tested it. Even if they were to charge a little extra, that is definitely WORTH it.
mosinmaster
CGN frequent flyer
If the Chinese can test the Grizzly mag 870 why can't they for the M305's?
http://youtu.be/GqLYWKes6Og
Go 0:36s
CanAm, post a video of you proof testing and I think you'll win a lot of people over.
http://youtu.be/GqLYWKes6Og
Go 0:36s
CanAm, post a video of you proof testing and I think you'll win a lot of people over.
What does the mfg. say?
Would be nice to hear from Norinco directly on this issue, what exactly is the problem and what they have or are planning to do about it ie. recall. Also, what production run seems to have the most problem with this and why. Does Can Am send the parts back to them? If so do they expect to get some feed back from them? This is a huge company and I would expect that they would be sensitive to negative feed back about one of their products and their reputation.
I dont think they should wait for someone to get killed or injured before they do something about it.
Would be nice to hear from Norinco directly on this issue, what exactly is the problem and what they have or are planning to do about it ie. recall. Also, what production run seems to have the most problem with this and why. Does Can Am send the parts back to them? If so do they expect to get some feed back from them? This is a huge company and I would expect that they would be sensitive to negative feed back about one of their products and their reputation.
I dont think they should wait for someone to get killed or injured before they do something about it.
perhaps you should peruse the U.S. M14 forums for Springfield reviews. There are probably 1000 M-305's here for every Sproingfield. You pay your money and deal with what you have.
It only took 12 pages for the 'ol Norky vs Springfield argument. Now to sit back and watch the fun!
I know I read an article a while back regarding an M1A rifle exploding due to the poor metallurgical properties of the barrel at the factory. Hmmm, strikingly similar....I wonder....?!?
