CSRA 2012 Schedule?

Do we have any idea when that is going to happen?

Nope.

I can say the interim CSRA executive have been working in good faith to restore the discipline to good standing within the APRA, but we are running into road blocks being put up by individuals within the audit committee and the APRA board that likely have no interest in seeing that happen.
 
Ya I read their email of what it would take to get back into the APRA and laughed. It's basically them trying to look like they are working with the membership of the CSRA, but the requirements are pretty much impossible to obtain.
 
It has become grossly obvious that certain key members of the APRA are doing all they can to kill the CSRA while pretending to try and help it. They don't like black guns taking up time on "their range". For that matter they don't like anyone taking up time on "their range".
 
Ya I read their email of what it would take to get back into the APRA and laughed. It's basically them trying to look like they are working with the membership of the CSRA, but the requirements are pretty much impossible to obtain.

What are they asking for? Can we just give it to them?
 
What are they asking for? Can we just give it to them?

The major sticking point seems to be in the form of the APRA (or at least the members of the 'Audit Committee') believing the CSRA is not being pro-active and accepting responsibility for proper good governance of the club, and moneys owing to the APRA.
It is all nonsense of course, we have admitted the books are not in the best of shape and we have done the best with what we have. We have stated on several occasions we are willing to 'take our medicine' on this and are willing to work with them and will make good on any payments they feel they have documentation for.

It would appear to me, based on their actions to date, that ultimately the APRA is simply unwilling to allow the Military Discipline back into the ranks of the
APRA, regardless of actions taken.
 
The major sticking point seems to be in the form of the APRA (or at least the members of the 'Audit Committee') believing the CSRA is not being pro-active and accepting responsibility for proper good governance of the club, and moneys owing to the APRA.
It is all nonsense of course, we have admitted the books are not in the best of shape and we have done the best with what we have. We have stated on several occasions we are willing to 'take our medicine' on this and are willing to work with them and will make good on any payments they feel they have documentation for.

It would appear to me, based on their actions to date, that ultimately the APRA is simply unwilling to allow the Military Discipline back into the ranks of the
APRA, regardless of actions taken.

Was the DCRA, and all the provincial rifles associations, not founded upon service conditions shooting? The whole situation is ridiculous, shooters vs. shooters when we have enough problems from outside our sport.
 
What are they asking for? Can we just give it to them?

For starters to prove as an individual you are in good standing and transfer to another club without penalty you have to provide the previous three years of membership cards along with copies of the cashed cheques for those three years.

I've said it before, but I've been a member of other ranges in the country and have never seen such lack of friendliness on a range as I have at the APRA. There is a group of individuals who seem to go out of their way to make you feel unwelcome. If you dare shoot at a time when they want to shoot and are on the range first they will find a reason to complain even when you do what you can to accommodate them. Or if they are there first they make it so difficult to shoot with them that you are forced to go elsewhere. It is like trying to deal with spoiled children at times.

I've shot across the country and through the US and that group of people is the worst I have encountered. As opposed to encouraging the shooting sports they are discouraging it.
 
that ultimately the APRA is simply unwilling to allow the Military Discipline back into the ranks of the
APRA, regardless of actions taken.

Based on the discussion that I had with the APRA President, though not on the "review committee", this is not the case. APRA President was clear to me that he did not see this as an attempt to remove one club, only a measure to bring the CSRA up to standard, which was clearly needed at least in some regard.
 
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Was the DCRA, and all the provincial rifles associations, not founded upon service conditions shooting? The whole situation is ridiculous, shooters vs. shooters when we have enough problems from outside our sport.

That's the ironic thing, referring to my post above. Some of the best experiences out there have been shooting alongside the old guys in their 70's and 80's. They actually served and shot when the DCRA was in it's infancy to ensure Canada had a pool of able bodied men who could shoot should the need arise in a time of war. They don't care what you shoot so long as you are respectful. Listening to them tell stories and watching what they can still do at their age was truly an enjoyable experience.
 
That's the ironic thing, referring to my post above. Some of the best experiences out there have been shooting alongside the old guys in their 70's and 80's. They actually served and shot when the DCRA was in it's infancy to ensure Canada had a pool of able bodied men who could shoot should the need arise in a time of war. They don't care what you shoot so long as you are respectful. Listening to them tell stories and watching what they can still do at their age was truly an enjoyable experience.

+1. That is the vast majority of the people out there in my experience.

I remember shooting alongside then ~85 yr old WW2 vet Earl with his TR rifle. Happy as shiznit to see that the club he helped for was still being used by many , and bringing competitive marksmanship to the "young ones".
 
This is an important topic for CSRA. I am moving my part of the discussion to the CSRA part of the APRA forum. If you wish to continue, I'll see you there ... http://www.albertarifle.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=4
 
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Based on the discussion that I had with the APRA President, though not on the "review committee", this is not the case. APRA President was clear to me that he did not see this as an attempt to remove on club, only a measure to bring the CSRA up to standard, which was clearly needed at least in some regard.

The APRA president stands on the 'Audit Committee' - ex-officio per Section 6 of the APRA bylaws, and yet was not present during our meeting with the committee.
The serving President has said a few things that go against the grain of the current situation and the present terms being leveled against the CSRA.

While I agree that the operations of the CSRA needs to be brought to a higher standard, so too should this higher standard be leveled at other clubs within the APRA and the governance of the APRA itself.
 
This is an important topic for CSRA. I am moving my part of the discussion to the CSRA part of the APRA forum. If you wish to continue, I'll see you there ... http://www.albertarifle.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=4

Good luck. I won't be subjecting my thoughts and writings to APRA moderation. They have already twisted and skewed a few things I have apparently said in all of this.
TWK
 
Good luck. I won't be subjecting my thoughts and writings to APRA moderation. They have already twisted and skewed a few things I have apparently said in all of this.
TWK

I understand. I was just hoping to shoot service rifle this summer as I missed last year.
 
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