best for Elk at distance 7 mm mag or 300 win mag ?

skneub

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Yea yea...stick with the 30/06 lol

Keep in mind this will also get used on moose and deer at short range.
Thoughts based on your experiance please...3006 is the largest i have ever hunted with.
I have heard and understand a fast bullet is easely deflected off twigs n stuff

Thinking about another cheep savage in plastic....lol
 
I have owned and hunted with both. They are both very good, but you need to handload to take full advantage of the 7mm RM's capabilities. I really, really like the .300 Win Mag with either 200gr or 220gr Partitions. I think those two bullets and that chambering make for a fantastic all around big game combo. The 200 will do +/- 2900fps and the 220 will do +/- 2800fps.

Having said that, a solid load in the 7mm RM with 175gr Partitions at +/- 2900fps is nothing to sneeze at either.

Twigs deflect everything. I try not to hit them when shooting at game. ;)


Another fine choice, if you want to step it up is the .338 Win Mag. A good 225gr or 250gr bullet at 2650-2850 fps is very effective. Note however, that in a lightweight plastic Savage it will (as will the .300 WM) have noticeable recoil.
 
I'd say it's pretty safe to say the 300 will hit harder inside 600yds, and probably much further. The recoil will also be more then the 7. They'll both do the job fine at any kind of sane range most will shoot a factory sporting weight rifle.

As to deflection, everything will deflect, but from a practical physics stand point, I'd say the faster object will try to continue on its original path, and the bullet with higher sectional density will tend to go straighter. These are just my thoughts, but I'm often a half a bubble off.
 
Cool , thanks guys.
all your doing is reinforcing something i figured already...and there is a slim chance i will even see anything im hunting that far away...
I feel like a tratior....All Dad used was a Huskavarna 30/06 that my lil brother snagged....it will be lucky if its ever used again :-(
But if nothing else it will be neat to have a cannon ;-)
 
skneub - please be very careful with Maxkeg's comments on range and power. I'd be willing to bet that the vast majority of .300 WM owners would have difficulty hitting a milk jug from 400 yards with the first shot from field positions. With respect to power, there are many folks shooting 6.5x47 Lapua, .260 AI and even fast twist .223's out to +1000 yards, and they are certainly much less powerful than the 7mm or .300 WM. The last thing you want to do is go out there and start flailing shots at game at long range. And looking at ballistics charts will do you no service. You need to get out there and practice, practice, practice.
 
300WM with 180gr Accubonds and you are good to go....why??? been using one for 20 years for the same reasons...till rifle bug hit. Use it for everything...elk, moose, bears, deer all at various distances. Elk as close as 10m to moose as far as 450m and my biggest whitetail (8x7) at 554m. One shot kills, double lungs pass thrus for the most part.

For me, I am not a 7mmRM fan but a 160gr bullet with the 7mmRM would work.
 
I have owned and shot them all... small 7's, medium 7's and big 7's [7STW, 7RUM]
30's from the 30-30 up to the 300RUM.
I have pretty well settled on the 308 Norma Mag/300 Win Mag/300WSM class of chamberings.
Tolerable recoil, super effective with the right bullets, and will reach right out as far as anyone
should be shooting at an animal, IMHO.
I still tote my '06 about a fair bit, as well as the 7x57 and the 6.5x55.
You would not suffer with the 7Rem Mag though, and the STW is just a bit more [150 fps] of the same.
Regards, Eagleye.
 
I have shot a 7mmRM that made my 300WM look like a 243. BAd recoiling rifle it was.

X2 Same experience. My oldest centerfire and most shot rifle is my customized M700 in 7mm rem mag. Shot it better than my 300 and 338 win mags. It is now my heaviest caliber and easiest to reload for. I never felt under gunned with 160 or 175 grain partitions.
 
and then there's the guys like val giest that use a 338/250 - kind of hard to argue with a prof emeritus and a couple of books on elk habits behind his name- sure, he's well retired now, but
 
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