Teaser Snapshot of the CSR Interarms Sporting rifle

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If they ever come in it's going to be very interesting to hear all the crying about the streets being flooded with full auto AK-47 Assault Rifles. And FYI I'm in for one of these and am hoping for a semi to follow. Not too sure why it wouldn't be a semi right off the bat! but I'm in anyway. Hope UT's contact list is still good as I think I was very near the top.

IF they ever come in there is no way that a semi would be allowed in, the mags from the bolt action would fit the semi. We can dream, but that's all it ever will be.
 
You got one already that you've done that to? Did AK parts fit? 47 or 74? Did they fit right on or did it take some smithing? Can you show us how it's done? Please!

it a straight pull soo im sure that is possible to do , have it been already do not sure ! if you can convert a bolt rifle to full auto you can converta straight pull to semi ...
 
pretty certain they have gone through steps to please the RCMP making sure It cant easily be converted to sem auto, I doubt youll be able to drop a block on there and a piston and go blasting away with a semi auto, im sure the barrel is either to large or small in diameter for that, I know from experience you cant drop just any block on any AK they have diff sizes from diff countries.
 
pretty certain they have gone through steps to please the RCMP making sure It cant easily be converted to sem auto, I doubt youll be able to drop a block on there and a piston and go blasting away with a semi auto, im sure the barrel is either to large or small in diameter for that, I know from experience you cant drop just any block on any AK they have diff sizes from diff countries.

If it looks like an AK they ain't pleased no matter what.
 
pretty certain they have gone through steps to please the RCMP making sure It cant easily be converted to sem auto, I doubt youll be able to drop a block on there and a piston and go blasting away with a semi auto, im sure the barrel is either to large or small in diameter for that, I know from experience you cant drop just any block on any AK they have diff sizes from diff countries.

If people can manage to turn a friggin Enfield to semi auto someone can make this one go semi.
 
IF they ever come in there is no way that a semi would be allowed in, the mags from the bolt action would fit the semi. We can dream, but that's all it ever will be.

Not exactly how it works. Has already been discussed why it would work. If the SPBAR is legal, it will be because it isn't similar internally to a real AK. Therefore if the SPBAR design was modified to semi, it still wouldn't be an AK variant as it still wouldn't have internals of an AK.
 
Not exactly how it works. Has already been discussed why it would work. If the SPBAR is legal, it will be because it isn't similar internally to a real AK. Therefore if the SPBAR design was modified to semi, it still wouldn't be an AK variant as it still wouldn't have internals of an AK.

I don't doubt the internals are different,, but if the mags work in the straight pull bolt action version they are also likely to work in a semi. That's just one of the reasons why I don't think we will ever see a semi automatic version in Canada.

PS, I have doubts that we will see the straight pull version either.

PPS, Remember the CZ 858 ?
 
I don't doubt the internals are different,, but if the mags work in the straight pull bolt action version they are also likely to work in a semi. That's just one of the reasons why I don't think we will ever see a semi automatic version in Canada.

PS, I have doubts that we will see the straight pull version either.

PPS, Remember the CZ 858 ?

I was under the impression this straight-pull version was to take AK mags, which are magazines designed for a semi-auto centre-fire and thus limited to 5 rounds already. There is no angle trying to be exploited. For you to have unlimited rounds for your straight pull rifle, the magazines must be designed & marketed for use in only such a rifle. The AK magazines do not meet this criteria. They are designed to be used in a semi-auto centrefire and this firearm was designed for compatibility with such magazines.

When it comes to magazine classification, the firearm the magazine is actually used in is irrelevant. It is the intended original purpose of the magazine, or any subsequent marketing by the manufacturer that will determine its class in the eyes of the RCMP.

In this case...since the magazines are already limited to 5, there is no fear the world will end if they brought in a semi....because there's no 30 round floodgate to be opened if such a firearm is introduced.
 
I don't doubt the internals are different,, but if the mags work in the straight pull bolt action version they are also likely to work in a semi. That's just one of the reasons why I don't think we will ever see a semi automatic version in Canada.

PS, I have doubts that we will see the straight pull version either.

PPS, Remember the CZ 858 ?

Magazines and firerms are classified seperatly in the Firearm Act.

Guns are non-restricted, restricted and prohib.

Mags are either "prohibited" or "unregulated" in the Act.

If a semi-auto version is introduced for inspection, classification will have nothing to do with what mags may fit.

The 858 has not been reclassified. And the import block will have had nothing to do with magazine issues.
 
I was under the impression this straight-pull version was to take AK mags, which are magazines designed for a semi-auto centre-fire and thus limited to 5 rounds already. There is no angle trying to be exploited. For you to have unlimited rounds for your straight pull rifle, the magazines must be designed & marketed for use in only such a rifle. The AK magazines do not meet this criteria. They are designed to be used in a semi-auto centrefire and this firearm was designed for compatibility with such magazines.

In that case it would not cause a problem. However I had heard ( here on CGN somewhere ) that the mags were an issue that was holding up the importation.

When it comes to magazine classification, the firearm the magazine is actually used in is irrelevant. It is the intended original purpose of the magazine, or any subsequent marketing by the manufacturer that will determine its class in the eyes of the RCMP.

I know that, but if they would be giving us 30 rounders in future semis then the straight pull would never happen. Irrelevant in theory but in practice I don't think so.

In this case...since the magazines are already limited to 5, there is no fear the world will end if they brought in a semi....because there's no 30 round floodgate to be opened if such a firearm is introduced.

If you are right:)
 
Magazines and firerms are classified seperatly in the Firearm Act.

Guns are non-restricted, restricted and prohib.

Mags are either "prohibited" or "unregulated" in the Act.

If a semi-auto version is introduced for inspection, classification will have nothing to do with what mags may fit.

I know all of that.

The 858 has not been reclassified. And the import block will have had nothing to do with magazine issues.

True, You just can't buy an 858 anymore.

We can still legally possess what we have. For the time being at least :)
 
True, You just can't buy an 858 anymore.

We can still legally possess what we have. For the time being at least :)

Yes you can. Unfortunately, the company has stopped importing them as the last two batches they tried to import were refused so supply is short. While we don't know why the two imports were banned, it will likely be for one of two reasons/decisions: they were deemed to be full auto, or they were deemed to have been full auto at one time and now converted auto. Whether right or wrong is up for debate, but that will be the argument provided. That is the only way to stop an import based on gun characteristics when considering the cz858.

Nothing new, and as the RCMP and CBSA aren't saying as of yet, Wolverine being the business that it is, isn't willing to risk it a third time financially. I would either if in their shoes.

So the cz858 is still non-restricted, and it is still for sale used, or in stock if still on retailer shelves. Supply may be short, but you are still allowed to buy them.

Regardless, it is a little off topic. None of what is occurring with the cz858 imports has anything to do with the pending classification of a newly made, newly designed gun.
 
Regardless, it is a little off topic. None of what is occurring with the cz858 imports has anything to do with the pending classification of a newly made, newly designed gun.

I think it has everything to do with it, they would rather we did not have access to either.
 
Hence why the revamped Type 97 is now being received at dealers doors ready to ship. If what you say is true of the conspiracy, the Type 97 wouldn't be here. And neither would the pending Famae 540 series.
^^^ very good point, lets stop trying to see conspiracies everywhere, hell we haven't even seen the report on the swiss yet, so...
 
Have they said they are planning on bringing in a semi version? I highly doubt this is the gateway to the semi. I don't think they will allow it, they banned a .22 that "looked" like an AK with no similar parts..
 
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