.50 Beowulf 3rd Party Magazines

How can it be 'dual use'?

It was designed for 50.B...
What does this mean for the guys that actually have 50.B uppers to use?
Can they not get mags for their rifles now because the mags can hold a different caliber then what they were designed for?
 
I'd just like to thank NR Magazine for trying. I know it takes time and effort (and thus money) as well as the actual expense + the stress of trying to see it all through. I appreciate the effort.

The more I get involved with civilian firearm ownership the more I have to shake my head at all the shenanigans.
 
Those guys selling the polymer .50 mags had better burn their shop to the ground before the warrant gets served.
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And anyone who purchased those polymer mags will be tracked down from the purchase records.
They'd better burn it down, for the sake of their customers.
 
Cobrajr122 said:
How can it be 'dual use'?

It was designed for 50.B...
What does this mean for the guys that actually have 50.B uppers to use?
Can they not get mags for their rifles now because the mags can hold a different caliber then what they were designed for?
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Yes, our magazine was purpose built from ground up as a .50 Beowulf magazine. At no point was it ever a 5.56mm magazine.
This is what I was saying about cracks in the law. Clarity on this "dual use" magazine issue was not written into the law, so really, it's up to a judge to decide (if the police were to charge you with possesion of an over capacity magazine).
They can use our mags, but they'll be pinned to 5 rounds of 5.56mm.


a_n_o_n said:
I'd just like to thank NR Magazine for trying. I know it takes time and effort (and thus money) as well as the actual expense + the stress of trying to see it all through. I appreciate the effort.

The more I get involved with civilian firearm ownership the more I have to shake my head at all the shenanigans.
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We've been trying to get this project off the ground for a year. It's been an incredible amount of work. I appreciate your words.
 
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skip1600 said:
... Hope koobs finds a nice boyfriend in the slammer ...
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I'd appreciate if we still did not discuss any initiatives from other companies in this thread. I really have no idea what those guys did or didn't do or say to the RCMP. We are all master of our own fate. Northern Republic Magazine has played from an open book and involved the government every step of the way. Our business will carry on and we will continue to explore other in-demand projects.
 
Cracks in the law, or crack in the lawmakers office? Rob Ford must have relatives in the RCMP.

This is what happens when a select few stupid €unts flaunt this as a "loophole" in the law with online videos trying to show off and big-mouthing on forums. If we would've quietly amassed these in large quantities so they were in every AR owners' household, and NR got this process through before all the bull#### news articles about AR owners circumventing the law with "high capacity" magazines, this project would've at least had a fighting chance. We may be oppressed when it comes to gun laws in this country, but when faced with oppression, the most effective tactic is to quietly amass and gather before striking, NOT to poke the sleeping bear that is our law makers at every opportunity we get. We've reaped what we've sown unfortunately. Good job to all the big mouths.

NR: I'm sorry that this project didn't materialize, I'm sure this is a least as big a disappointment to you guys as it is to the rest of us on here, and I can only begin to imagine the amount of time and frustration that you faced trying to get this thing off the ground. Good luck with your future endeavours.
 
^Great plan, Twenty years ago before the invent of internet and the instantaneous Facebook/Twitter society with smart phones. Sure Rob Ford too would've luv to govern in the 80's, or better yet in Kennedy's days.

Thumbs up to NR for this effort and all their future endeavors.
 
NR raises an interesting point. This "dual-use" classification is new, not documented elsewhere, and runs contrary to existing information published on the RCMP website.

I would suggest that if a person were charged for having such a magazine that they would be alright, at least until a clarification came about. They've got a great body of existing information to use as a defense. It'd just take a ton of money and you run the risk of it not going your way and thus being in big big trouble.

It's similar to punishment by process - create an interpretation of a law in such a fashion that it restricts the people because they are too fearful of the consequences of challenging it.

Smart really. Disgusting and unjust, yes... but still smart.
 
I believe dual purpose has been used before for things such as the x rail, where something can be used for a manual action gun and a semi
 
Fair enough. I didn't do much looking beyond a quick google search. Still, that's not quite the same either.

I'm not trying to advocate anything here; I was just thinking that it does in fact raise some interesting questions, and is the top slippery slope to a very dangerous place.
 
skip1600 said:
I believe dual purpose has been used before for things such as the x rail, where something can be used for a manual action gun and a semi
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Yes, the RCMP stated that there is precedent case law on this issue. This is why I don't envy their job. Based on existing precedents, I am aware of at least three different directions you can go with interpretation of magazine laws in Canada and none of them are the same. The Federal government would do all parties involved a huge favour by clarifying the laws.
 
Thanks for trying. It's a shame our current political party won't actually revise any of these laws.... they don't care and they know it would be political suicide.
 
NR Magazine said:
Yes, the RCMP stated that there is precedent case law on this issue. This is why I don't envy their job. Based on existing precedents, I am aware of at least three different directions you can go with interpretation of magazine laws in Canada and none of them are the same. The Federal government would do all parties involved a huge favour by clarifying the laws.
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Do you mind making reference to the precedents?
 
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