Acr parts

andrew3081 said:
ACR would be reclassified as restricted by name like Ar15.
So your 18.5" barrel ACR will still be restricted.

Wolverine supplies mentioned about not importing shorter xcr barrel for the above reason on one of the other thread.
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The RCMP does not have the authority to restrict a rifle by name. There is no legal difference between a 16" barrel and a 10.5" barrel on a semi-auto centre-fire rifle. They are both restricted.

Wolverine probably doesn't want to bring in 16" XCR barrels because not many people would buy them when for an extra 2", you can get the non-restricted for the same price.
 
with a few tools anyone should be able to install the parts on a ACR barrel. its pretty simple.
 
You seem to know a lot more than everybody else about the Dlask barrels so let me ask you:
what is it made of?
what is the finish on it?
is it "drilled" for the gas block pins?
 
not sure who you are asking, but I believe in the other thread they were said to be made by green mountain and are CMV. I was told they are black oxide finidhed like the factory barrel.

If they (dlask) are installing them for the advertised price, I would assume they are fully machined.
 
Brian46 said:
they are swaping parts your gas system parts (I thought that was clear in my post), the average person isn't going to swap back and forth due to the verification a smith has to do and then call to the cfc to have the status changed each time.

Sure you could switch it just at the range, but the RCMP are frequent visitors in my province so I wouldn't take that chance.
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I don't know, I've shot with quite a few RCMP and I've never been asked to provide any proof of anything. Plus I'm pretty sure you have 30 days to have it reclassified so if it was just a temporary thing at the range for an hour why worry about it?
Now on the other hand, if some fool decides to put the short barrel on out in the bush and gets caught I hope they throw the book at him and give the maximum penalty.
 
cr5 said:
I don't know, I've shot with quite a few RCMP and I've never been asked to provide any proof of anything. Plus I'm pretty sure you have 30 days to have it reclassified so if it was just a temporary thing at the range for an hour why worry about it?
Now on the other hand, if some fool decides to put the short barrel on out in the bush and gets caught I hope they throw the book at him and give the maximum penalty.
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I'm not talking about shooting with, they come to check your papers, transport, locks, etc. It's easy pickings for them.
 
Brian46 said:
I'm not talking about shooting with, they come to check your papers, transport, locks, etc. It's easy pickings for them.
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Why would they be such a$$holes?
What's the point?
Come shoot with me and see what it's like to shoot without someone treating you like a criminal before you do anything wrong. Cops there sound like a bunch of anti's. Why don't they go bother some drug dealers or child molesters? Crime rate must be really low where you are, they really have nothing better to do?

Would it actually be illegal though?
I think I might call CFC this week and ask. I want clarification.
 
cr5 said:
Why would they be such a$$holes?
What's the point?
Come shoot with me and see what it's like to shoot without someone treating you like a criminal before you do anything wrong. Cops there sound like a bunch of anti's. Why don't they go bother some drug dealers or child molesters? Crime rate must be really low where you are, they really have nothing better to do?
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I wonder the same things, but don't really want to see what they do if I ask.......
Would it actually be illegal though?
I think I might call CFC this week and ask. I want clarification
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. The law in the end boils down to intent, if the CFC gives you 30 days to report then you have 30 days to get it verified and switched. What you are allowed to do with this firearm while it is in this state of limbo would be best asked of the CFC. If your intent is to swap back and forth daily to avoid having to reclassify I don't think they are going to like that.

The RCMP like to take away anything they regard as questionable to them, which can be anything since they do not know every make and model of firearm or how the law applies to every make and model, our firearm laws are so convoluted in regards to certain firearms many people have no idea which way is up including the law makers. This will result in a lot of money spent on your end to get your property back even though you did nothing wrong.
 
Just another reason they should drop all classification and just say a firearm is a firearm. If your licensed to use one your licensed to use them all the same way.
Commit a crime with one and go to jail for a long time. Behave yourself and all is well.

I'm hoping to hear back soon about the possibility of building barrel kits for a reasonable price. Hopefully later this week. I'll post as soon as I hear anything. I'm just a middle man in this one putting 2 guys that can do different parts of the job at the same table. We'll see what happens.
 
cr5 said:
Just another reason they should drop all classification and just say a firearm is a firearm. If your licensed to use one your licensed to use them all the same way.
Commit a crime with one and go to jail for a long time. Behave yourself and all is well.

I'm hoping to hear back soon about the possibility of building barrel kits for a reasonable price. Hopefully later this week. I'll post as soon as I hear anything. I'm just a middle man in this one putting 2 guys that can do different parts of the job at the same table. We'll see what happens.
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Interested, I would like a fluted 450 barrel just long enough to be NR, could go with a heavier profile for better accuracy with the fluting
 
Brian46 said:
I have been waiting for a couple months to get a price from Herron, I wouldn't hold your breath. Dlask replied to me within a day, 500 for their barrel installed and rifle re registered is what I was told
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Hi Brian46
Could you please forward your email quote request to us or provide you email address so that I can see why your request has not been answered
 
HerronArms said:
Hi Brian46
Could you please forward your email quote request to us or provide you email address so that I can see why your request has not been answered
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I will forward the initial contact I had with you oct 11th to info@herronarms.ca, after doing more research I think I will want a different caliber than I originally asked for a quote on.
 
Brian46 said:
Interested, I would like a fluted 450 barrel just long enough to be NR, could go with a heavier profile for better accuracy with the fluting
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I'm not sure about fluting unless you want to buy an AR barrel like this one
http://www.oneshottactical.com/Merc...eshot&Product_Code=FM-RA-206&Category_Code=BP
And then see if he can cut the notch for the op rod support, gas block pins and fix the gas port. Then the even bigger challenge is finding one in 450b
I don't think it's going to be impossible to build one in 450b but the fancier you want it the harder it will be to source. If you can find a barrel blank chambered for it already he can definitely cut it to any profile you want and modify it for the ACR, and you know who got his 450 working and tells me he has an adjustable gas block worked out so things are looking up.
I'm not sure if the smith can do fluting with his equipment but I can find out.
 
Hey Herron, nice of you to join in the conversation, out of curiosity is sourcing the piston parts something you could do for us? I'm sure it would bring quite a few more ACR owners your way...
I know I need two complete barrels myself (18.5" and 12.5") if that could be done without scavenging my factory 16.5" would be even better.

HerronArms said:
Hi Brian46
Could you please forward your email quote request to us or provide you email address so that I can see why your request has not been answered
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cr5 said:
Your confused.

The ACR is already restricted because of the factory barrel length.
The ACR is not an AR-15 military rifle so it has no more chance of becoming restricted or prohibited by name than your XCR does.
The ACR has nothing about it that any other non restricted rifle has once it has an 18.5 inch barrel.

I hope that helps, if your just trolling then do it somewhere else.


Wolverine won't import a shorter barrel but they will import the pistol version?
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And you think the RCMP/the government will just allow a 'black' rifle to be able to quick change barrel from 10.5" to 18.5" and stay non restricted?
ACR is a quick change barrel rifle.....or is it not?
RCMP/the government has re-classified firearms before and they are not afraid to do it again.
All the RCMP/the government has to do it add the Bushmaster ACR name to the restricted list, so all ACR will be restricted regardless of the barrel length...just like the Ar15.

Wolverine does import the pistol XCR.
But why would I spend another $2000 to get a 10.5" XCR while I can spend only $500?
The barrels from the pistol XCR will not work in the normal XCR.

And no I am not confused sir, maybe you are.


Stephen1546 said:
The RCMP does not have the authority to restrict a rifle by name. There is no legal difference between a 16" barrel and a 10.5" barrel on a semi-auto centre-fire rifle. They are both restricted.

Wolverine probably doesn't want to bring in 16" XCR barrels because not many people would buy them when for an extra 2", you can get the non-restricted for the same price.
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Well, the RCMP will lobby the government to change the class.
And XCR has 12" barrel and it makes a big difference.
Like I said in my previous post, Wolverine has already stated on their fourms they will not import shorter barrels for XCR beacuse of legality issues.
 
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The AR-15 is the only rifle restricted by name, and the RCMP can't just add firearms because they feel like it. An ACR in any configuration under 18.6" fits the description of a restricted firearm, amd the only way to change that would be to change the firearm act.

Can you link to the thread where Wolverine talked about this subject?
 
Stephen1546 said:
The AR-15 is the only rifle restricted by name, and the RCMP can't just add firearms because they feel like it. An ACR in any configuration under 18.6" fits the description of a restricted firearm, amd the only way to change that would be to change the firearm act.

Can you link to the thread where Wolverine talked about this subject?
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All I remember was it was in the Wolverine Supplies section and it was something to do with XCR.

RCMP can block all future ACR imports...like what they did with CZ858.
 
The ACR isn't the only firearm that does, and won't be the last for sure as everybody is going that way now if you haven't noticed.
the problem is in the way you are seeing this; you mentioned before "If your intent is to swap back and forth daily to avoid having to reclassify..." that wouldn't be the intent of any responsible law abiding gun owner...
 
It's pretty much the same thing as using a restricted as a nonrestricted, out on public land.
The government trusts you not to do that, and have laws in place to punish you for doing so.
If you put a 12" barrel in a rifle currently classed as a nonrestricted, without the proper restricted registration, be you at the range or not, you're in breach of the law. You will probably be prosecuted if busted.
What I'm saying is that there are laws in place already, the government potentially reclassifying the firearm does nothing. It's already restricted with a 12" barrel.

Registering as restricted for three gun season was my angle on the 12" barrel personally.
 
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