10/22 advice for an obsessive compulsive bolt guy

Whatever you go with make sure it is an integral optic rail in the receiver....

Rugers receivers weak link is the thin soft receiver with ridiculously small threaded holes for a rail.

Dlask does it right..so do some others.

Go Dlask....reasonably priced and proven performance....and support a solid CDN manufacturer
 
old303 said:
I recall a tale of a 50-round-of-.22 "drag race" being won by the guy with the single-shot bolt over the one who only had to fill that fiddly little 10/22 rotary magazine five times...
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The only part believable about this is the part that states “a tale”!
 
The Volquartsen is the way to go if you don’t care for tinkering and building your own custom setup.
I’m sure I have more money in my Dlask build then that Volquartsen and it’s probably more accurate too.
Still I had fun building and it’s very accurate with Lapua SK Match and still accurate for plinking with bulk Winchester Dynapoints.
It has a Boyd’s tacticool stock Lilja 21” Match SS bbl and now a Timney trigger from Mystic Precision. Also I machined a 1/4” pin through the stock and rear trigger pin and glass bedded. Had a lot of fun doing this and that’s what makes the 10/22 appealing to me.
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Mystic Precision said:
For rimfires, especially semis, barrels and chambers is everything to performance. Got some specs set up to help the 10/22 be very accurate out to 400+yds.

For the rest of the rifle, it is appearance so build whatever you prefer.

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Barrel, bedding and ammo will determine your outcome...

Jerry
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Usually agree with your advice but not on this occasion l. There is a lot more to an accurate semi 22 than just the barrel. You know this as well as any that have built accurate 10/22 platform guns. Slapping a high quality barrel will give you a better gun that will be more accurate but it’s still a poor quality gun at best with a good barrel. The only good thing is the design, barrel(cuz it’s not Ruger) and magazine! You need a pinned firing pin with a polished action rod and a quality trigger.These are the the minimums and we are not talking about stocks,bedding,triggers or bolt torques. It’s a much larger picture than a McGowan barrel. That’s a good start however, but just the first step!!
 
randyhub said:
Are you shooting varmints?

If so you might want to move up to a .17HMR. My .22s are now for plinking my .17HMR is what I use mostly now, shoot way less shots due to it's flat shooting out to 150 yards, in fact I even use my .223 bolt less now when venting gophers.

If it wasn't so hard on Forum Members I would post what a .17 does to gophers, not nice at all. :)
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Yep—I have a cz455 in 17HMR set up for gophers, so this gun will be my 1b gopher gun, and since I’m going for a light build, my 13yo will be able to carry it easily.

Just exchanging emails with Dlask now. Leading contenders are a Volquartsen VM-22, the “custom shop” 10/22, a Bergera BXR and whatever Dlask comes up with.
 
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Longstud said:
Usually agree with your advice but not on this occasion l. There is a lot more to an accurate semi 22 than just the barrel. You know this as well as any that have built accurate 10/22 platform guns. Slapping a high quality barrel will give you a better gun that will be more accurate but it’s still a poor quality gun at best with a good barrel. The only good thing is the design, barrel(cuz it’s not Ruger) and magazine! You need a pinned firing pin with a polished action rod and a quality trigger.These are the the minimums and we are not talking about stocks,bedding,triggers or bolt torques. It’s a much larger picture than a McGowan barrel. That’s a good start however, but just the first step!!
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With any precision rifle, it is a package set up. As I have shown with my rifle and others, barrel-bedding-ammo are the trifactor that is the key to success or not. Obviously, a rifle with faulty extractors, broken firing pins, damaged recoil springs aren't going to work... but then I have to assume that is a given in any set up.

So if you have a 10/22 that is functioning properly and reliable in feeding and firing, then accuracy is greatly improved with the right spec barrel in a properly fit stock. I have seen a number of rifles where the action was not properly supported in the stock.. and that isn't going to lead to accuracy no matter the parts.

A nice clean breaking trigger is a joy to use and helps with accuracy but you can do very good work with the factory trigger if you had to.

If I can help get one of your 10/22 shooting well, just send me a pm or email.

Just assembled 2 more 10/22s for team mates... used off the rack factory 10/22s of recent manufacture (around 4 to 5 yrs old) that feed and functioned properly (extractors had to be changed in both rifles)... set them up as I have described and they are shooting very well. Except for the barrel and extractor, the rest of the barreled action is factory Ruger... triggers have both received TLC but use original parts.

You can see video of one of these firing on my FB page.

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YMMV

Jerry

PS, my 10/22 is one of my first rifles purchased so several decades old... again, extractor was improved (might even be the 2nd one as I have shot this rifle a metric ton) but the rest is factory Ruger (definitely changed recoil spring but can't remember when now). Trigger has received TLC but uses original parts in an Alum housing (why plastic... GRRRRR).

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coleman1495 said:
Get a Dlask with a Kidd Ultralight if they still have one. Extremely accurate and very light. It will be a pleasure to carry and shoot.
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I will never sell my Dlask Sterling/KIDD Ultralight rifle unless I'm starving lol Just a great and light setup that does everything well.
 
Mystic Precision said:
If you got the McGowen barrel from me, I would definitely take care of any barrel that didn't shoot well. PM or email to discuss. One of the specs I offer is specific to match ammo suitable for very LR shooting. That spec would not work well with bulk HV ammo.... there is another spec for that type of application.

The feedback I have received has been very positive...

Let me know if I can help

Happy Easter.
Jerry
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It was a Bentz chamber spec barrel. It shot a lot better than factory but nothing to brag about. It didn’t shoot any ammo particularly well. The Kidd consistently shoots everything better.

No you would not have replaced the McGowen barrel because there wasn’t anything wrong with it. Its just a poor value compared to Kidd. To say that you would have replaced it is dishonest at best.
 
So it shot alot better then factory... but not particularly well... and there was nothing wrong with it....????

Ok... I guess there was nothing for me to resolve...????

glad you enjoy the Kidd barrel. Ever compare them at 300yds?

Jerry
 
Mystic Precision said:
So it shot alot better then factory... but not particularly well... and there was nothing wrong with it....????

Ok... I guess there was nothing for me to resolve...????

glad you enjoy the Kidd barrel. Ever compare them at 300yds?

Jerry
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Considering the factory barrel has pellet rifle accuracy it’s not much to compare to. No I never compared at 300 yards because I only recently got a scope for my 22 that has enough elevation.Considering it’s lacklustre performance at 50 yards I wouldn’t hold my breath.

I tried both and the McGowen sucks period. It was a poor value. Maybe I got a bad one but it doesn’t matter. You wouldn’t have exchanged it because thats not reasonable. There’s always a justification as to why it isn’t working as well as it could.

I’d like to buy another McGowen to prove that point but I’d likely be stuck with another mediocre barrel to sell.
 
A lemon barrel can come from any major barrel maker... just the nature of the beast. If there is a tangible problem with the product, I will support it for sure. If you got a 10/22 barrel catering to what I called the LR rimfire PRS spec, that set up is geared to match ammo especially Lapua CenterX. Barrels I have competed with and those who use them and given me feedback, have done well. Pretty sure all are competing with Lapua CenterX or a high grade of Eley.

These barrels can shoot CCI SV and SK rifle match very well too.. but that can vary so testing is always needed. Proper install and set up are of course necessary.

I have personally tested 5 barrels now to confirm my specs for myself and team mates. Used 2 of these in LR rimfire PRS competition and have done very well. You can look up my scores on Practiscore for the CRPS matches in BC. Lots of Vudoos, custom CZ, Tikkas and Rugers at these matches.

Other matches were not posted. Bench rest barrels? Nope... hit "small' targets at far away distances, yep... and keep running through the match.

If you are more inclined to short range bench shooting, you may be interested in the Shilen Select match barrels? Shilen IS used in rimfire benchrest. My needs for rimfire PRS didn't align with their set up.... but it might for you?

Sorry, that the barrel didn't do what you wanted... and glad you found something that suits your needs well.

Enjoy your season...

Jerry
 
One can only offer to help. If it’s declined then it’ s dealt with. I have a McGowen barrel in 17 Mach2 that shoots groups at 50 yards the size of the case head, so no complaints. Don’t really think someone should be called dishonest if you don’t give them the chance to prove it. Just my opinion. Stay safe all
 
In an attempt too get things back on topic.... ;)

Just ordered an upgraded TUF-22 from Dlask:

- TUF-22 ‘Basic’
- Upgrade to Ruger BX trigger pack
- Upgrade to the grey Magpul X-22 stock.
- Upgrade to the 16.5” matte blued carbon fiber barrel.
- XB-5 linear compensator in matte blue to match the CF barrel.
- TUF-22 25-round magazine

My goals were reliable, lightweight and accurate. Doesn't hurt that she'll be pretty too! ;)

Thanks for the advice all!
 
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