25 Yard Freestyle Accuracy.....let's play a game.

Just got back from the range, pretty cold out here -9 deg. and -14 with the wind chill. Had a pretty good start but by the time I finished each groups my hands were freezing & accuracy suffered. Anyway, the gun ran great and had some fun with the guys today. Had 4 targets with me total and this was the results.

92 - 4X

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91 - 3X

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95 - 2X

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91 - 2X

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That looks like me (I didn't post my targets)! With a shadow no less? I no longer feel so bad. Guess we both have to keep trying harder:rolleyes:

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misanthropist said:
Yeah it's funny what a difference it makes. To be honest I don't really understand why; I can shoot at a 1" square at 7y and feel pretty confident in the outcome, and yet shooting the bull with fat sights at 25 is strangely difficult. I can't really explain the discrepancy but I really notice it.

I had a Bersa out last night and the sights are actually very good for factory day sights, but the FS is too wide to shoot well at 25 for sure. But that's such a small percentage of most people's handgun time that I think the ups outweigh the downs on that particular set of sights.
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Front sight profiles make a huge difference at distance, so much so that a lot of checked out shooters on PF have gone to FO in their carry guns (I'm sure you've seen the threads). I painted the whole front sight on my elite orange as I wasn't happy with how I was visually picking it up on recoil. That hurt my 25 yard range shooting some and I think it's due to the lack of definition on the edges and the top of front sight. Trade offs.

Slavex said:
Sights are fixed and zeroed for 25ish. Were I using this pistol for PPC or Bullseye I'd put totally different sights on it, but for ISPC it's perfect. I have narrow CGW front sight with 1mm FO (red) in it and the factory FO (green) rear sight. I am waiting on some of the new style rear sights to show up, but they won't help with 25yd stuff really, I just like them better (emotional thing). Benched the gun shoots much better. The vertical stringing is 100% my shaky arms and a bit of trigger snatch I was doing last night. Practice is important. I haven't shot meaningfully in probably 6 months. I had the match in Russia 2 weeks ago, one in Norway 5 weeks ago and some classes I taught prior to that. Most of the shooting I've done in the last year has just been demos, except for the Langdon course in July (forgot about that up above), but I was kind of not mentally in it for that course as Clob can attest to.
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Yeah, I felt really bad for you dude. I'm glad to see you back shooting regularly.
 
gnmontey said:
That looks like me (I didn't post my targets)! With a shadow no less? I no longer feel so bad. Guess we both have to keep trying harder:rolleyes:

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Yeah, the cold killed it. -14 deg. is a bit too cold to keep things on track. My hands felt numb & couldn't hold still on the last 3-4 shots at each of these targets. Now, if I could have shot those in a warm indoor range, would have been a different story ;)
 
Harry Callahan said:
Yeah, the cold killed it. -14 deg. is a bit too cold to keep things on track. My hands felt numb & couldn't hold still on the last 3-4 shots at each of these targets. Now, if I could have shot those in a warm indoor range, would have been a different story ;)
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I hear ya. Baby its cold outside. LOL
Geez like maybe somebody could start a 20 yd indoor warm freestyle alternate resized target type thread.
 
redryder said:
I hear ya. Baby its cold outside. LOL
Geez like maybe somebody could start a 50 yd indoor warm freestyle alternate resized target type thread.
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Thats a great idea! I tell ya, those groups will shrink & points & X's will go up. Since I won't be cold no more and will shoot straight, I corrected your post.ha:
 
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Merry Christmas to everyone in this thread!

Make sure you guys get to the range with all your new Christmas blasters and post some targets. I have a new Girsan Compaq coming that I'll post results in the coming weeks.
 
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Targets from today with my gsg,moving in the right direction I supppse
 
Clobbersauras said:
^^Outstanding shooting!
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Thanks .....

Shot Bullseye 2700 courses many years ago. Eyes are not as good as once were. Now into IPSC and really enjoying two handed faster shooting, but typically at shorter distances. These targets were the second ones shot for each caliber, two handed and essentially a timed fire sequence (5 shots in 20 seconds). Will continue to practice and post later results ..... but only if better :))
 
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I got some really good advice today from an old guy watching his son in law shoot, he grabbed the front of my gun and pushed it too the left and told my to use the muscles in my right forearm to to pull it straight againand to remember it and donit when I shoot. He also noticed I tend to drop the tension in my right at about 5 round into my mag. I thought he was just there watching but he was telling me he owns over 50 1911's and has been shooting his entire life he looked to be around the 70 marks. I followed his advice and I instantly noticed better shooting he picked up on things other instructors never have and just from watching me. Ill post my targets later I may have to try and make it too my usual range tomorrow and see if any of it took.
 
skoal said:
I got some really good advice today from an old guy watching his son in law shoot, he grabbed the front of my gun and pushed it too the left and told my to use the muscles in my right forearm to to pull it straight againand to remember it and donit when I shoot. He also noticed I tend to drop the tension in my right at about 5 round into my mag. I thought he was just there watching but he was telling me he owns over 50 1911's and has been shooting his entire life he looked to be around the 70 marks. I followed his advice and I instantly noticed better shooting he picked up on things other instructors never have and just from watching me. Ill post my targets later I may have to try and make it too my usual range tomorrow and see if any of it took.
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I teach this to shooters at the local range and it works wonders. I picked it up from a Ron Avery tip I found on youtube. Search for "triggerstripe" on youtube and you'll see it demonstrated.
 



First one shot with my walther p99 the rest with my gsg1911 that was posted previous These were the best out of the 30 or so b8's I shot today.



 
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