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If you cherry pick loads, sure... but the .280 AI is normally in a modern bolt action and lauded for mountain hunting, if the .280 wasn't enough and you feel the need to AI it, you are only interested in Max SAAMI loads... there are alot of semi-auto 7 RM's around and lawyers being lawyers, the companies respond. However we are talking about reality here, when the parameters are mostly equivalent the .280 AI cannot keep up with the 7 RM.
sorry but if you wanna stack it how you want go ahead . Im quite certain you DON"t have the two to compare on the same day thru the same chrony . I do
The factory load in the 7RM does NOT beat the 280 AI in velocity in evey rifle .
period
Maybe. And the first 7mm-08 139 gr ammo I ever tried was faster than any factory 280 I ever tried. But I know a, very few people who restrict themselves to factory loads, and b, pick a different factory load and the winner changes. - dan
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Some of the most anemic FACTORY ammo I have ever Radared is the 7 mm REM Mag . I love the cartridge but unless you handload it You handicap yourself . RJ
BUT handloaded its EXCELLENT !
BUT handloaded its EXCELLENT !
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Number one, nobody brought up factory ammo until you tried to back up your stupid claim. The .280 AI CANNOT beat the 7 RM, when comparing apples to apples.... cuz, physics. I can tell you are ramping up to go pink again.
I have owned two 280AI rifles, and five 7mmremmag rifles. The 7mmremmag rifles average 100-150fps more velocity, with the same bullet, than the 280AI rifles. As for one more round capacity, I don't care, three rounds is enough for big game hunting.
That is a FACT ! The 7 Mag will always beat the 280 AI when it’s apples to apples FOR Sure. RJ
I've said it before but I'll say it again. I have three rifles chambered for the 280, a stainless Savage, a Browning A-Bolt II, and a custom Mauser, so i'm familiar with the cartridge and it's performance. If you load the 280 Rem to 280 AI pressures, the difference between them almost goes away. I think the only real advantage (and it's a significant one) is the availability of factory ammunition already loaded to the higher pressure. I do reload an I have a chronograph. I also own both a Win 7mm mag and a Remington in the same. The Winnnie has a 26 inch barrel and goes west for elk but the 24 inch barrel on the Remington isn't too far behind and is more accurate. In my opinion (backed by data) if you want to go fast load the 7mm up to max pressures, it will win the go fast contest against the 280AI every single time.
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As others have said the 280 AI advantage is in smaller lightweight guns. My Montana is crazy light and handy. The factory ammo I’m working my way through says 3150 with 140 accubonds. So a little bigger bullet a little faster than the 270. About perfect for mountain hunting in BC. Not a 7 mag. but I’ve never seen a reason for a magnum size rifle in 7mm. Having said that, I did have a couple of STWs that made sense. But 160s at pretty much 3300 are on another level entirely.
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I sold a good 7mm rem mag to help fund my latest 280ai. It was never a thought of mine that the 280 would outperform the mag so that's not what I expected. I wanted something that uses a bit less powder and I could still reach out to longish ranges without punishing recoil and I never plan on shooting factory loaded ammo. Brass life is also a consideration and the ackley with good brass (peterson) SHOULD have longer case life. So far I'm happy with my decision.
I know it's not fair to compare factory ammo with handloads but the only factory ammo I shot with the 7mm mag was winchester super x 150 gr and it cronoed 2900 fps which the 280 could do no problem. But handloads got me 150 gr bullets close to 3050 in that rifle which did seem to have a slower barrel.
I know it's not fair to compare factory ammo with handloads but the only factory ammo I shot with the 7mm mag was winchester super x 150 gr and it cronoed 2900 fps which the 280 could do no problem. But handloads got me 150 gr bullets close to 3050 in that rifle which did seem to have a slower barrel.
