338 vs 300 win?

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I bet this thread would be a lot shorter if only people who had shot an elk or moose posted in it.


Not to mention with the chamberings...

7mm Remington Magnum and 7mm STW. I have 9 elk under my belt and a few moose. Last moose was killed with my double rifle, 9.3x74R.
If the 6.5, 7mm and 300 PRC existed in the yester-years, I would of quaddrupled my kills........................yea right. If our forefathers killed with 38-55's, well.......................

 

[MTM]

Guess I’ll add that while I’ve shot Moose with a few different calibers I’ve only shot Elk with a 340 wby and 416 Remington. Guess I lean towards bigger is better.

 

[bearhunter]

The last Elk I shot was with an 8x57 Mauser, using 196 grain Oryx bullets @ 2600fps.

225 yds, high on the lungs and took out the arteries just under the spine on a broadside shot. He staggered about 10 meters and went down, fully expired before I walked up to him.

Hit them right, the first time is the secret.

I've got nothing against the big magnum cartridges as they do allow the shooter to extend the range for effective shots, most shooters don't shoot their magnums well, for all sorts of reasons.

Nothing new here, but magnum cartridges are not magic wands.

If I had to choose between the magnum cartridges, I would go with the largest diameter/heaviest bullet I could handle. That's what magnums are about, delivering as much energy as possible on the target, hopefully where it does the job.

 

[pathfinder76]

7mm Remington Magnum and 7mm STW. I have 9 elk under my belt and a few moose. Last moose was killed with my double rifle, 9.3x74R.

Aren’t we talking about 300’s and 338’s?

 

[Gatehouse]

Did you ever even notice that much of a difference in say, how far a similarly hit moose traveled before goin hooves up?

None of the moose I have shot went very far, regardless of what used. 7-08, 7RM, 300s, 338, 375s etc. The 375 and 300s might have been a bit faster than the 7-08.

 

[Blackcats]

Why do you want to hurt yourself ! Never shot an Elk but have taken numerous Moose & 2 Black Bear & several deer over the years with a 308 Win. Bullet placement is everything ! Just my 180 gr. !

 

[Hmatt]

Why do you want to hurt yourself ! Never shot an Elk but have taken numerous Moose & 2 Black Bear & several deer over the years with a 308 Win. Bullet placement is everything ! Just my 180 gr. !

Because why not?

 

[Dogleg]

.338 is my main deer gun, kinda heavy at 8 1/4 lbs scoped. Shot lots of game with a 300 as well. Pretty funny people making such a big deal out of recoil. Ya I guess if you can only shoot little guns then shoot little guns.

Thing is a 300 is a little gun (though close to the blurry line) and 338 is barely a medium in the big picture. While people are forming support groups to discuss where the bad little gun touched them, and how it made them feel; others are shooting rifles with double the recoil. Or double that again, and walking away unscathed with big grins on their faces.
Recoil is mostly mental, perceived recoil is entirely mental.

 

[dgradinaru]

For me it ouais either 30-06 or 9.3x62 or 8x57, all kill moose easily all the way to 300 yards and more( but never had to shoot past 280m) didn’t see much difference between the 3 to be honest!

This mirrors my experience as well. Between properly loaded 7x64 w/ 175gr at 2740 fps, 30-06 w/180-200's, 8x57 w/ 195-200's, 9.3x62 285gr, 338 win mag w/225gr's, I couldn't tell the difference on killing/knock down power on deer, black bear, and some moose. Some fall, some do the 25-40 yard death dash.

In saying that, between the two I'd be leaning towards the 300 win mag loaded with 220gr ELD-x at 2800 fps. Very flat shooting with great B.C. and accuracy. The 338 win, still a good choice though and wouldn't have a problem using one again.

300 win with 220gr ELD-X at 200y pictured below.

 

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Thing is a 300 is a little gun (though close to the blurry line) and 338 is barely a medium in the big picture. While people are forming support groups to discuss where the bad little gun touched them, and how it made them feel; others are shooting rifles with double the recoil. Or double that again, and walking away unscathed with big grins on their faces.
Recoil is mostly mental, perceived recoil is entirely mental.

It's called the Pavlov theory, "operant conditioning.".............studied it in law.