50 Bw mags things are getting stupid

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In simple english....BBB is worry that the "made in canada" mags were just simply re-stamped from 223 mags. Not marked at cproduct production line to begin with.

I thought i was the fresh off the boat chinaman
 
looks like all 50 beowulf rifles are single shot now due to all the magazines being prohibited according to RCMP-SFSS unless pinned to 223/5.56 capacity. I knew it was only a matter of time before all the people using the 50 Beowulf mags to skirt 223/5.56 capacity laws would ruin it for us 50 shooters. Only a matter of time till the RCMP begin to enforce the findings posted below of the SFSS

At least I can still put 5 in my 450 bushmaster since it is an entirely different design than the 5.56/223 mags

Armtac said:
Being the dealer with Alexander Arms, we were originally going to manufacturer the polymer version of the .50 Beowulf mags in Korea completely with a new mold 2 years ago. We have one currently sitting with RCMP for inspection, however, numerous email with RCMP did mentioned that they will not likely going to approve any .50 Beowulf magazine.

Here is a portion of the communication I have with RCMP

"Across the spectrum of numerous inspections, RCMP-SFSS has not seen a single 50 Beowulf magazine or a single 458 Socom Calibre magazine for the AR-15 platform that is not prohibited. This is because the magazine designs we have seen have been adapted from the AR-15/M16 5.56 x 45 mm design to accommodate the 458 Socom & 50 Beowulf calibre cartridge but have never lost the 5.56 mm design features.

I am not here to argue, I am here to tell people what SFSS told me.

It really doesn't make any sense to me either, but a lot of stuffs in life doesn't make any sense as well.
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Brian46 said:
looks like all 50 beowulf rifles are single shot now due to all the magazines being prohibited according to RCMP-SFSS unless pinned to 223/5.56 capacity. I knew it was only a matter of time before all the people using the 50 Beowulf mags to skirt capacity laws would ruin it for us 50 shooters.

At least I can still put 5 in my 450 bushmaster since it is an entirely different design than the 5.56/223 mags
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Until we see it in writing .50 Beowulf mags should and can be used, purchased and sold in Canada.

A tech's opinion (even the RCMP-SFSS's opinion) is not legally binding. It's simply an opinion.
 
ctcs said:
Until we see it in writing .50 Beowulf mags should and can be used, purchased and sold in Canada.

A tech's opinion (even the RCMP-SFSS's opinion) is not legally binding. It's simply an opinion.
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Unless we happen to like what the RCMP-SFSS says (special bulletin #72)....... lol
 
Logically that line of thinking should be transferable to rifles. This is likely just the first time something like this has come up maybe? Not that im positive on that though.
 
If the dealers selling them now are so confident they are all legal then get this in writing from the rcmp and post the letter on your forum.
 
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PrettyBoy said:
I believe there is no difference using a 96 mag in a 92 and using a beowulf mag in a 223 upper

If its legal for one it should be legal for the other.
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bulletin 72 clearly only states a handgun magazine, not a centerfire rifle magazine. If there was no difference in the law we would not have different magazine capacities for those different classes of firearms in the first place
 
Armtac said:
Being the dealer with Alexander Arms, we were originally going to manufacturer the polymer version of the .50 Beowulf mags in Korea completely with a new mold 2 years ago. We have one currently sitting with RCMP for inspection, however, numerous email with RCMP did mentioned that they will not likely going to approve any .50 Beowulf magazine.

Here is a portion of the communication I have with RCMP

"Across the spectrum of numerous inspections, RCMP-SFSS has not seen a single 50 Beowulf magazine or a single 458 Socom Calibre magazine for the AR-15 platform that is not prohibited. This is because the magazine designs we have seen have been adapted from the AR-15/M16 5.56 x 45 mm design to accommodate the 458 Socom & 50 Beowulf calibre cartridge but have never lost the 5.56 mm design features.

I am not here to argue, I am here to tell people what SFSS told me.

It really doesn't make any sense to me either, but a lot of stuffs in life doesn't make any sense as well.
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Hah, that's the same thing they told Northern Republic Magazine. The RCMP think they're being smart by saying that all .50 Beowulf mags have been modified from .223 Rem AR15 magazines just because they share a similar shape. It's ridiculous! So what if the .50 beowulf round happens to be very similar in width to 2x stacked .223 Rem rounds. That's a given, based on the limitations of the AR15 platform. The lower receiver mag well is a constant dimension. You can't change that! Ergo, in the RCMP's eye's, all firearms should really only come in one calibre.

As I mentioned in another thread, the only way this is getting settled is if the RCMP get scolded by the judicial system for not following the law (they can say they are, but it's very clear that they are not), or some judge sides with the RCMP due to personal opinion on the "intent of the law" and ultimately ends up prohibiting all multi-calibre magazines not pinned to hold the least number of rounds. Either way, you're going to end up pissing off millions of people.

IMHO, it would've been wiser for the RCMP to allow the .50 Beowulf mags. If you're so obviously pro-gun control, you're better off cutting the mags off at 15 rounds of .223 than breaking the system and forcing some judge to hastily rethink the obvious biases and mistakes in Section 84 of the Criminal Code. It only takes one court challenge and this whole issue will be blown wide open.
 
cancer said:
Hah, that's the same thing they told Northern Republic Magazine. The RCMP think they're being smart by saying that all .50 Beowulf mags have been modified from .223 Rem AR15 magazines just because they share a similar shape. It's ridiculous! So what if the .50 beowulf round happens to be very similar in width to 2x stacked .223 Rem rounds. That's a given, based on the limitations of the AR15 platform. The lower receiver mag well is a constant dimension. You can't change that!
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There is a simple solution. Manufacture the 50 Beowulf magazines like Remington does with the mags for the 450 Bushmaster (notice how it is not mentioned with the 50 and 458 mags by the SFSS) yet retains the same magazine body shape as all the above
 
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