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Cool, now all I need your price list for Lee loadmaster stuff, any eta on this?
90gr Berger VLD and the 223 - 500m Group 1 1/16"X 1/8" see post 357
- Thread starter Mystic Precision
- Start date
- Location
- Peace River, Alberta
VLD's and magazines
Anyone want to comment on the use of the bullets we are talking about here and the use in a magazine. Are we able to use a magazine here or is all this single shot?
I have a Tic Tac I was thinking about starting this type of adventure with but was curious if magazine length was going to be a limiting factor.
Greg
Anyone want to comment on the use of the bullets we are talking about here and the use in a magazine. Are we able to use a magazine here or is all this single shot?
I have a Tic Tac I was thinking about starting this type of adventure with but was curious if magazine length was going to be a limiting factor.
Greg
Mystic Precision
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- Location
- Summerland, BC
Can be done but not ideal. If you want to mag feed, the 80's are a better choice.
Jerry
Hi
While waiting for components and tools needed to shoot 90 vld I did some test with Berger 90 bt on Saturday.
I took the worst load from the last test which was 24.0 gr of Varget bullet touching the lands and did some experiment with seating depth.
I loaded 6 groups with 24 gr of varget - all with different seating depth.
These are the groups:
1) touching lands
2) 0.010 in to the lands
3) jump 0.010
4) jump 0.020
5) jump 0.030
6) jump 0.005
All groups were shot using Ladder system ( one shot from each group, then 2 min break)
Group #5 (jump 0.030) was about the same when I was using 24.3 of Varger and bullet was on the lands.
Rifle Tikka m595 action, True-Flite 32" 1 in 7 twist.
While waiting for components and tools needed to shoot 90 vld I did some test with Berger 90 bt on Saturday.
I took the worst load from the last test which was 24.0 gr of Varget bullet touching the lands and did some experiment with seating depth.
I loaded 6 groups with 24 gr of varget - all with different seating depth.
These are the groups:
1) touching lands
2) 0.010 in to the lands
3) jump 0.010
4) jump 0.020
5) jump 0.030
6) jump 0.005
All groups were shot using Ladder system ( one shot from each group, then 2 min break)
Group #5 (jump 0.030) was about the same when I was using 24.3 of Varger and bullet was on the lands.
Rifle Tikka m595 action, True-Flite 32" 1 in 7 twist.
Mystic Precision
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Summerland, BC
got a chance to stretch out the legs at 500m in some gusty winds. Watching mirage or terrain signs and 1 flag at the target.
best groups were 1 1/2" for 4rds but mostly in the 2" range when I could get the wind call right. Otherwise, zingo, off it goes.
No camera for one day so was shooting blind and just holding center. Definitely can hold the 5 ring.
Went out today with my camera and could start to learn how to drive this bullet. V bull accuracy is definitely in the cards if you can get the wind right. Shot a nice 1" cluster when the winds held pretty steady for the shots.
It sure drifts more then my 6.5 ( no surprise here) but it is driveable.
Vertical was also very nice holding around 1" when I got the winds right. That is about all I can ask in any F class rig.
Look forward to warmer weather to finalize my load testing and also some more Chronie numbers. The drop I used suggested speed might be faster then the 2875fps I got last time in the very cold temps.
I am really going to enjoy shooting this set up...
Jerry
best groups were 1 1/2" for 4rds but mostly in the 2" range when I could get the wind call right. Otherwise, zingo, off it goes.
No camera for one day so was shooting blind and just holding center. Definitely can hold the 5 ring.
Went out today with my camera and could start to learn how to drive this bullet. V bull accuracy is definitely in the cards if you can get the wind right. Shot a nice 1" cluster when the winds held pretty steady for the shots.
It sure drifts more then my 6.5 ( no surprise here) but it is driveable.
Vertical was also very nice holding around 1" when I got the winds right. That is about all I can ask in any F class rig.
Look forward to warmer weather to finalize my load testing and also some more Chronie numbers. The drop I used suggested speed might be faster then the 2875fps I got last time in the very cold temps.
I am really going to enjoy shooting this set up...
Jerry
Group #5 (jump 0.030) was about the same when I was using 24.3 of Varger and bullet was on the lands.
Rifle Tikka m595 action, True-Flite 32" 1 in 7 twist.
Good work on the groups! Beautiful Stock on the rifle !!
I have had good luck with 25.8gr Varget in my Savage LRPV.
Mystic Precision
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Summerland, BC
One of my new FTR rigs.
My test rig used to get the prelim data.
Another Choate stocked F TR rig to follow shortly.
Jerry
Mystic Precision
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Summerland, BC
The weather is warming up finally and I have had a chance to do some 500m testing. Shooting very nicely with V bull accuracy and moderate vertical. Hard to say for sure how much vertical is load induced as it has always been windy.
Also, starting to monitor the effects of fouling. Leverolution burns leaving a black soot - very much like other ball powders of the past.
Shooting 40 to 50rds hasn't been a problem but I want to see if more frequent cleaning matters and what happen with many more rds fired.
With the temp range, the loads have stayed pretty similar so this powder is showing promise as being temp stable. But I still need temps in a high teens/20's to know for sure.
I am really enjoying the lack of recoil and spotting my own impacts. Lots more practising and testing to do.
Jerry
Also, starting to monitor the effects of fouling. Leverolution burns leaving a black soot - very much like other ball powders of the past.
Shooting 40 to 50rds hasn't been a problem but I want to see if more frequent cleaning matters and what happen with many more rds fired.
With the temp range, the loads have stayed pretty similar so this powder is showing promise as being temp stable. But I still need temps in a high teens/20's to know for sure.
I am really enjoying the lack of recoil and spotting my own impacts. Lots more practising and testing to do.
Jerry
Jerry
Is that an after market bolt or did you machine the flutes into the bolt?
I wouldn't mind a bolt like that on my Savages.
Mystic Precision
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Summerland, BC
The bolt body was machined by Sharp shooters Supply before they were stopped by the Feds from exporting. Looks nice but the factory body runs smoother.
Jerry
Jerry
Just came back from the range. Today I was testing Berger 90 vld. I was testing 8 loads 23.8 24.0 24.2 24.4 24.6 24.8 25.0 and 25.2.
The best group at 100 meters was 25.2 of Varget 0.310, second best 0.380 24.4. Couldn't make a picture since it was raining all day and my target was destroyed by the end of the day.
Next week I am going to fine-tune 25.2 and 24.4.
By the way, based on advice from guys from Robertson Composites - I got new scale (Sartorius vic 123), pricey but worth every penny.
The best group at 100 meters was 25.2 of Varget 0.310, second best 0.380 24.4. Couldn't make a picture since it was raining all day and my target was destroyed by the end of the day.
Next week I am going to fine-tune 25.2 and 24.4.
By the way, based on advice from guys from Robertson Composites - I got new scale (Sartorius vic 123), pricey but worth every penny.
I did some more testing today with 90 vld. First I tried low charges 23.9 23.8 23.7. 23.6 23.5 23.4 of Varget. Results were terrible (1 to 5in), I could do better with my SKS.
Then I tried my best load from last shooting 25.1. 25.2. 25.3 of Varget. We did chronograph it 25.1 = 2845 25.3 = 2865 ( you can see pic below, 100 yards)
Then I tried my best load from last shooting 25.1. 25.2. 25.3 of Varget. We did chronograph it 25.1 = 2845 25.3 = 2865 ( you can see pic below, 100 yards)
