a few cats from this guiding season

BC is pricey. Are the cats bigger? Or is it just fees and stuff?

I can't speak for other outfitters, but I know the cost of doing business is alot higher in BC then south of the 49th.
I have hunters each season who have hunted Utah, Idaho, Montana etc. These hunters are coming with me to look over a few cats and hunt for trophy toms, not shooting the first cat they tree. Definately a different class of hunt then a lot of guides put on. No motels and cafe meals on my hunts..
Is the extra cost worth it?? Ask the clients.
 
Using hounds to find & corner/tree your target is not hunting, IMHO.

I liken it to jacking deer or "hunting" free-range cattle. No sport in it...

The rifle is enough of an unfair advantage for us (OK, maybe it just "evens the odds" but still), do the tracking/stalking yourself.

And don't put the dogs in harms-way for your own selfish pleasures.

Real men don't need hounds to hunt... :p


* this in no way means I oppose the killing of these beautiful animals, although I don't like the methods in which they were...

if it was easy, everyone would be doing it.

i do know 1 guy that shot a cougar without dogs, but it was a chance encounter.
 
if it was easy, everyone would be doing it.

i do know 1 guy that shot a cougar without dogs, but it was a chance encounter.

Was it healthy? I am betting not, the only ones I know shot any other way were unhealthy and starving.

How do you hunt cougars without dogs, that is just stupid.
 
Fantastic pics. I had no idea those things were anywhere near that big. I grew up dreaming of being a "mountain lion man" but then I started smokin, and then drinkin and then of course wimin. Sheeeit lol
 
Was it healthy? I am betting not, the only ones I know shot any other way were unhealthy and starving.

How do you hunt cougars without dogs, that is just stupid.

This year I helped out a friend who tracked down a cougar and wounded it. He tracked the cat for a day and half before jumping the cat and getting a shot at it as it cleared the brush. ( this was in 2 feet of snow). Three days later he asked for my help on closing the deal. Thats when things got alittle western. I did not want to use my dogs as the wounded cat probably would not tree and would fight the dogs. When after cutting the track from the previous night we tracked it into a hell hole where eventually he killed the cat from about 5 feet.
Don't try this at home people as trained professionals were used to execute this stunt.:eek:
 
Was it healthy? I am betting not, the only ones I know shot any other way were unhealthy and starving.

How do you hunt cougars without dogs, that is just stupid.


i don't know, i can ask the fellow next time i see him. all i know is that it was a target of opportunity.

personally, i have nothing against hunting with dogs, i'd like to do it in fact. what i would like to see is the guys that have a problems with it, to get out there and show the rest of us how to do it and bag some cats.
 
Was it healthy? I am betting not, the only ones I know shot any other way were unhealthy and starving.

How do you hunt cougars without dogs, that is just stupid.


Stupid to hunt man-eating tigers alone too. But it was done.:eek: Well, almost alone ....


Corbett preferred to hunt alone and on foot when pursuing dangerous game. He often hunted with a small dog named Robin, about whom he wrote much in his first book The Man-Eaters of Kumaon. At times, Corbett took great personal risks to save the lives of others. Still remembered in India as a great preservationist, his memories command fond respect in the areas where he worked.[1]

Between 1907 and 1938, Corbett tracked and shot a documented 19 tigers and 14 leopards — a total of 33 recorded and documented man-eaters. It is estimated that these big cats had killed more than 1,200 men, women and children. The first tiger he killed, the Champawat Tiger in Champawat, was responsible for 436 documented deaths.



See Jim Corbett
 
wowzers!!! Some amazing replies...

I was gonna pass on this thred but..cant...I have hunted fro over 4 decades..guided professionally and harvested some of the biggest and oldest grizzlies in BC and Canada..been run at numerous times by both grizzlies and black bears,, been please to have introduced my great friend Tim to his first Grizzly squared over 9 1/2 feet and 900 pounds..and was a spring bear photos are on thsi site..harvested stone sheep, cali sheep moose and deer and blacks etc..

I have also been on a couple hunts for cougars, and yes it was with Doug and his fantastic four legged athletes..

The dogs are beyond awesome..and it was a ocupational hazard that one was killed by a cougar this year..but still upsetting.

Doug treats his dogs with care and compassion and respect...

I was amazed at the knowlege Doug posesses in relation to cougars, I have learned a tremendous amount from this professional...he shares his wealth of knowlege in a easy natural way and its easy to just like the guy..

I also appreciate the way Doug CHOOSES to harvest mountain lions..selecting mature toms that are usually HUMUNGOUS..he has indeed harvested Toms over 200#s I have seen em..and when a female that has learned to hunt and kill domestic dogs, sheep and the likes Doug realizes THAT animal has to go..for everyones safety.

I have no problem going after a 900 pound grizzly, both in spring and fall and my history has shown me to be pretty successful..HOWEVER that is a long way from trying to go after a cougar w/o dogs..can it be done??? yes..but at great risk and far longer than the average guy can give in a year...and only in good snow conditions...Doug does NOT "toot his own horn" he is more that ready to share his clients photos of success..but its Doug and his dogs that really get it done..

The area of Bc Doug lives in has the biggest cats in the world?? the world record was shot just a few Kms from Dougs home...

I respect Doug for his skills, his success and his ethics..it really is my privilege to know such a capable outdoor professional..highly recomended..

cheers

Steven Rupp
 
BC is pricey. Are the cats bigger? Or is it just fees and stuff?

Yes, they have big cats, but so do other places, just have to check the record books. Seems to me that whatever species you're hunting in BC, if it's available in another province/state, it's less $. Just my observations and not meant as a flame toward BC outfitters, perhaps they pay their guides more, gov't fees,etc.
 
Beatiful cats!!

Never mind the uneducated drivel from the people who apparently own the high score on Cabela's Dangerous Hunts.

I would love to do a cat hunt some day...maybe the MNR will wake up and realize that we have cougars in Ontario and promote their growth!!
 
and +100 on making access to the hunting section a privilege...There are far too many anti-hunting comments made by so-called "hunters" that it makes me sick.
 
Here are a couple pictures form the past couple days. Todays cat put holes in all the dogs so some penicillan was the order of the day.
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Hound hunts

Thank you Doug for sharing excellent photos of your dogs in action.
I certainly agree that those who have been critical know nothing about your type of hunt.
I have been following pointing dogs and hounds for over 50 years and two things I am certain of :


First of all, any hunt involving hunting dogs is way better than any hunt without dogs.

Secondly houndsmen are likely to be the very best woodsmen of us all.After all, they never get to pick their course of travel,they have to go where the dogs lead them..... often for great distances through the toughest terrain......then find their way back to the truck......often in the dark.

Simply a somewhat experienced opinion.
Pete G
 
i just love seeing tghem dogs doing what comes natural to them . and boy do thy show drive . thy would not do it if thy did not love it. great photos keep then coming DUTCH
 
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