ACR or XCR?

brandneo said:
Ahh so the US charges money for it....
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Yes, suffice to say that importing is not for the feint of heart. Entire threads have been devoted to this very subject...
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The bottom line is that if you want an XCR they are available, and bargains on used/low-round count ones can often be found in the EE. As for the ACR, new ones are currently unobtanium - although this is subject to change without notice. Used ones do occasionally surface on the EE - but they've been snapped up within days.

With either rifle it's still a good chunk of change and worth your while to mull it around to make sure you get what you want the first time.
 
blaxsun said:
That's certainly true. I think if the ACR had come in closer to the proposed retail price and with a weight closer to that of the SCAR it would have received a more favourable reception.

With respect to controls, though - I've handled an XCR - and the controls are intuitively better on an ACR. The completely ambidextrous nature and location of the charging handle, magazine and bolt release are perfect (the bolt release/hold is actually along the bottom of the trigger guard - pretty slick).

Once various barrel assemblies and caliber kits are available I imagine the ACR will become infinitely more popular (particularly with hunters in 6.8SPC). But the XCR is certainly stepping it up a notch with their new stock, and it has a solid following as well.

The ACR is definitely going to run you a bit more than an XCR (probably $500-$750), and of course there's the availability issues at the moment. If you can get a chance to at least handle both for feel - that would probably be a great place to start.
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Just a note that my observations above were as a result of using an ACR for a two day Carbine course so they *are* based on real world useage and I still maintain that the controls are better on the XCR as they are more intuitive. The ACR tries too hard to be a different and ends up being a mediocre midpack rifle without any substantially new features on offer.

Ja, I would take a SCAR any day over both an XCR and a ACR tho. It just felt *right* in the short time that I fired one (It was a SCAR 17 tho) :D
 
redivivus said:
Just a note that my observations above were as a result of using an ACR for a two day Carbine course so they *are* based on real world useage and I still maintain that the controls are better on the XCR as they are more intuitive. The ACR tries too hard to be a different and ends up being a mediocre midpack rifle without any substantially new features on offer.

Jay, I would take a SCAR any day over both an XCR and a ACR tho. It just felt *right* in the short time that I fired one (It was a SCAR 17 tho) :D
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Control positioning is arguably a personal preference. I simply prefer the ACR; to me it feels more intuitive. I wouldn't mind a SCAR, either... (if they'd ever get around to approving it...).
 
Yahh ok.....not to sound like a child but, a SCAR??? ... really??? That is beyond my wishfull thinking ability. It seems that both have their good points and not so good....so I'll mull this over and get something....soon I hope.
 
Interestingly enough, having read several US forums in the last few days, why is the ACR being burned at the stake....not that the XCR gets much love out there, but really, a US designed US built "AR replacement rifle" is falling on some serious thorns. I guess the AR platform has a really large folowing that just won't let go.
 
brandneo said:
Interestingly enough, having read several US forums in the last few days, why is the ACR being burned at the stake....not that the XCR gets much love out there, but really, a US designed US built "AR replacement rifle" is falling on some serious thorns. I guess the AR platform has a really large folowing that just won't let go.
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It was originally designed and promoted as a 6lbs/$1,500 next-generation AR. It was going to use a standard AR bolt, trigger and barrel - and throughout the final design these all got changed; so you ended up with an 8lbs $2,500 next-generation AR that was a bit more proprietary. And I think there's not a lot of love for Bushmaster.

I think the criticism is a bit harsh; it wasn't like Magpul could manufacture the Masada anyway - and if you've seen the ACR-2 that is turning into more and more what the Masada was originally intended to be (lighter, aluminium billet lower, interchangeable pistol grip, modified controls, improved hand guard and stock, etc.) Still want the XCR over the new ACR? :nest:

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brandneo said:
Military = fa capable, not coming here then. Isn't Bushmaster/Remington the same or am I wrong?
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Yes, Bushmaster is the commercial arm. Point is that the changes for the military version may end up being integrated into the civilian one. Why? Magpul still makes the ACR polymer lower, stock, grip, buis - so this makes the ACR much more independent of Magpul.

We already know you want one... what are you waiting for? ;)
 
This is a classic bait and switch. The ACR 2 does not exist for civilian sales. There is no indication that it will ever be. The only thing that is available is the rather flawed ACR.
This whole thread has moved me closer to the XCR. Which I didn't expect.
 
nemesisincanada said:
This is a classic bait and switch. The ACR 2 does not exist for civilian sales. There is no indication that it will ever be. The only thing that is available is the rather flawed ACR.
This whole thread has moved me closer to the XCR. Which I didn't expect.
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There's nothing fundamentally-flawed with the ACR other than people's perception of it.
 
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