AK magazine for SKS. or mod to accept AR15 mags.

Komodo said:
Yeah. Hi Cal has some metal AK47 mags that have had the duck bill put on them. they are pricey tho. I think $89
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Just welding a duckbill onto a AK mag will not work. The AK mag is much too beefy so the SKS would still need the receiver to be machined to fit the mag. So if your going to machine the SKS receiver you might as well go all the way and fit unaltered AK mags. This machining includes the bolt as well. It's alot of work! but can be done.
 
Allright, Red_Liner, you're calling me a liar. Now get your butt out here on the range and PROVE that you're right. I am sure the local RCMP will be very interested.

Loading a stock SKS with 10 rounds is no trouble: slip in the Charger, sweep down on the top round, remove Charger and take aim. Actually, I can load 10 rounds into a LEE-ENFIELD faster than most guys can change-out a mag..... and that requires TWO Chargers in succession to be loaded into the magazine.

The mag laws in Canada are ridiculous. I agree. In the case of the SAFN, the mag holds exactly ZERO rounds when it is off the rifle..... but it still has to be pinned. Takes about $200 off the resale value of the rifle but our national police force (which we don't have under the Constitution) likes it that way.

You have asked me what part of "legal 10-round magazine conversion" I do not understand. I am asking you what part of "5" YOU do not understand. Yes, there IS a 10-round PISTOL magazine built for the .223 cartridge, but .223 and 7.62x39 are DIFFERENT, in case you hadn't noticed. What 10-round 7.62x39 PISTOL magazine are you using? And how does it get a STANAG number, anyway? Last I looked, NATO was using the 5.56x45, not the 7.62x39.

But I'm just a Dumb Old Phart who does not share your brilliance.

Tell you what; I'll send you a birthday card when you're in Stony Mountain.
 
Smellie there are 10 XCR-L pistol mags that are 10rds for the 7.62x39 round and are STANAG sized (has nothing to do with NATO these are civilian products). But as a side note I am convinced that it is quicker to load a rifle if its 10 rds or less with a charger (aka stripper clip) than it is to change magazines, how much quicker its fractions of a second to a second but it is still faster. The SKS is better suited with its original design especially with Canadian gun laws, why bother with a 20rd mag that is pinned to 5 when you have a 10rd mag pinned to 5 already installed which is more reliable, cheaper, and quicker to use.
 
smellie said:
Allright, Red_Liner, you're calling me a liar. Now get your butt out here on the range and PROVE that you're right. I am sure the local RCMP will be very interested.

Loading a stock SKS with 10 rounds is no trouble: slip in the Charger, sweep down on the top round, remove Charger and take aim. Actually, I can load 10 rounds into a LEE-ENFIELD faster than most guys can change-out a mag..... and that requires TWO Chargers in succession to be loaded into the magazine.

The mag laws in Canada are ridiculous. I agree. In the case of the SAFN, the mag holds exactly ZERO rounds when it is off the rifle..... but it still has to be pinned. Takes about $200 off the resale value of the rifle but our national police force (which we don't have under the Constitution) likes it that way.

You have asked me what part of "legal 10-round magazine conversion" I do not understand. I am asking you what part of "5" YOU do not understand. Yes, there IS a 10-round PISTOL magazine built for the .223 cartridge, but .223 and 7.62x39 are DIFFERENT, in case you hadn't noticed. What 10-round 7.62x39 PISTOL magazine are you using? And how does it get a STANAG number, anyway? Last I looked, NATO was using the 5.56x45, not the 7.62x39.

But I'm just a Dumb Old Phart who does not share your brilliance.

Tell you what; I'll send you a birthday card when you're in Stony Mountain.
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They make and sell 10 round 7.62x39 AR mags designed for the XCR pistols. They fit an AR magwell, and are popular in the CZ 858 AR mag adapters.

Might want to be right next time you come across as such a...... Nevermind can't afford the infractions.
 
Eaglelord17 said:
The SKS is better suited with its original design especially with Canadian gun laws, why bother with a 20rd mag that is pinned to 5 when you have a 10rd mag pinned to 5 already installed which is more reliable, cheaper, and quicker to use.
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The XCR mags are not pinned to 5, they are "XCR PISTOL" mags and have a 10 round capacity.

http://www.wolverinesupplies.com/de...-L-Micro-Pistol-762x39-10-Round-Magazine.aspx

You would have to load 2 stripper clips when I can just bang away 10 rounds.

Not sure how your above statement makes sense if the SKS is adapted to accept the XCR mags?
 
Wow. Not every day you get to see smellie make a fool of himself. This day is noteworthy.

I too enjoy his posts, and respect and hold in awe his knowledge and wisdom on milsurps. However hubris has a bad habit of biting you in the ass.

Don't anyone tell him about Beowulf mags...
 
Okay Smellie,

while standing with no support, shoot your 5 rounds, reach into your pocket, charge the next 5 rounds, shoot those, reach into your pocket and repeat until 20 rounds are expended...

then do what i do here. You are INSANE if you think you can do it faster...insane. 3 reloads vs ONE! Even if using the stripper clips is faster, doing it three times most certainly is not. And ofcourse the larger the number of expended rounds the number of reloads doubles with the 5round limit.


around 1:10 is where i shoot 9 rounds, leisurely reload and shoot another 10.

Reloading with a charger requires the gun to be supported underneath the receiver as you are pressing on the rounds. That usually means bringing the butstock down to your thigh as you reload.

With magazines you can keep the gun up, reload while keeping the eye on your target and keep partying on!

Smellie i understand that you love your history, but time marches on. Sometimes your love of history clouds your judgement as to the benefits of advanced military designs.
 
I have more experience at making a fool of myself than you might believe, friend!

Not 'hubris': plain ignorance on my part.

So it's a CIVILIAN adaptation.

Maybe we can get them to turn out a batch in .30-'06 for the SAFNs. Wouldn't be any more impractical than a 7.62x39 'pistol'.

But it still ain't Milsurp.

Question: how do you RESTORE the original rifle after you have finished all your cutting and welding and grinding?

Verily, this doth smack of Bubba & Co.
 
I laugh at how upset people get when simple questions are asked. if you purists dont have anything other to say than "leave the rifle alone" then why do you even bother posting in the ####ing thread!!!! You guys really know how to make this forum a unfriendly ignorant place to be a part of. Why does every SKS mod thread need this bull####?
 
Hate to tell you this Smellie, but the rifle can be returned to using internal magazine without any mods needed to it, and it will function just fine that well as well.

In the end, you enjoy your rifles the way you want them, and i will enjoy them how I want to....deal?

smellie said:
I have more experience at making a fool of myself than you might believe, friend!

Not 'hubris': plain ignorance on my part.

So it's a CIVILIAN adaptation.

Maybe we can get them to turn out a batch in .30-'06 for the SAFNs. Wouldn't be any more impractical than a 7.62x39 'pistol'.

But it still ain't Milsurp.

Question: how do you RESTORE the original rifle after you have finished all your cutting and welding and grinding?

Verily, this doth smack of Bubba & Co.
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I just don't understand what a "Let's Bubba an SKS" thread is doing in this forum.

You guys must have worn out your welcome in Red Rifles.

This is, generally, where we try to restore a few after you guys lose interest in them and run off to play video games.

Thankfully, there are still websites around on which the difference is appreciated.
 
^^ LOL.

Good argument...attack the person, not their information.

Glad to see an open minded outlook from you Smellie.

In the end, you've done nothing but lower yourself in a lot of CGNers minds for your ad hominem attacks.
 
Red_Liner740 said:
What part of legal 10 round magazine conversion did you fail to understand?
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I wasn't referring to your mag well conversion, I was referring to the AK mag conversion which isn't even an AK mag conversion that the OP thinks that it is. Its just a conversion to remove the duckbill from detachable SKS mags.

Question for you. I watched your video of you testing your magwell conversion. Can you load a mag in well the bolt is closed or does the bolt have to be opened to insert a mag?
 
You can put the magazine in no matter on the bolt position, as long as there is room for the rounds to be pushed down further. So if the 10 round mag was pinned to barely hold 10 rounds, it wont work. If you can load 10 and still push it down further and allmost, but not quite, load an 11th round, it will work

The magazine lips go around the bolt, the bolt pushes the rounds further down, cycling the bolt causes it to move out of the way, next round comes up and the bolt strips it and places into battery. I know the duckbill mags dont allow the bolt to open when inserted...

Mumbles Marble Mouth said:
I wasn't referring to your mag well conversion, I was referring to the AK mag conversion which isn't even an AK mag conversion that the OP thinks that it is. Its just a conversion to remove the duckbill from detachable SKS mags.

Question for you. I watched your video of you testing your magwell conversion. Can you load a mag in well the bolt is closed or does the bolt have to be opened to insert a mag?
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Red_Liner740 said:
You can put the magazine in no matter on the bolt position, as long as there is room for the rounds to be pushed down further. So if the 10 round mag was pinned to barely hold 10 rounds, it wont work. If you can load 10 and still push it down further and allmost, but not quite, load an 11th round, it will work

The magazine lips go around the bolt, the bolt pushes the rounds further down, cycling the bolt causes it to move out of the way, next round comes up and the bolt strips it and places into battery. I know the duckbill mags dont allow the bolt to open when inserted...
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Interesting. Seems as though people doing home projects are putting out better aftermarket products than the #######s as Tapco and ATI. Even that guy that made the conversion for duckless SKS mags is a pretty crafty idea.
 
Not sure if anyone has ever done the reloading trick with the SKS where you drop one round in the mag then chamber it, then open the hatch and drop 5 rounds in the close the hatch. The rounds will straighten themselves out once you close the hatch. Takes practice but, once you get good at it, you get a + 1 advantage. Sometimes +2 if you get an SKS that can just barely fit a 6th round in the mag.
 
..LOL... fun read, & niice Mod with the ACR Magwell. Why not just get a Couple Niice Russian & Maybe a Chinese Military & a Couple more cheapies to Bubba or do what ever you want to. Who cares, no big deal, you can buy 5 or maybe even 6 SKS in all Different Types for practically $1000. I got an as new Norinco for only $130 bucks(just recently).. pinned barrel so who cares if I chop/cut/Mod or whatever to it, I also have a non refurb Russian that can stay that way.. pretty silly getting all piss ant over people doing what they want to their own property Esp. when the cost makes it FUN & Economical to be CREATIVE & INNOVATIVE instead of being a whiner and old cranky pants NOBODY wants to invite to the party...if someone is really a Purist, why don't you actually Keep it Real & don't use Computers or Technology either..get rid of your phone for a Pigeon & go live with (respectively so) with the Amish. If you don't like Progression, you shouldn't be posting online & playing the soo boring ..I'll correct your grammar' thing.. really.... Move Along :D~~

Cheerz ..~
 
Purists seek to protect and preserve the history and the firearm as much as possible. We can't stop you from destroying the firearm your right, but I look at it as it not even being your firearm, your taking care of it for someone else. I predict when the price starts to go up and the surplus ammo runs out you guys won't care a bit about that firearm. Smellie I have to say your stance has raised my opinion of you in my books, you genuinely care about what happens to these firearms in the future. If you guys just want to customise a gun so bad why not get a AR-15 or something?
 
Getting the tapered 7.62x39 to stack and feed out of an AR mag is nye impossible......of cource you are only putting 5 in it.....nope 4, 7.62x39 is bigger around that 223....you'd have to reposition the pin if you wanted 5, 7.62 to fit in an AR mag....which would be illegal since you can't mod a mag.
 
My god some people are dense and talk out of their ass with ZERO first hand knowledge. At least watch the posted videos. Not even a handfull of posts above yours I show how wrong you are. 10 rounds fired rapid fire with zero issues.

Tell me, what's your foor taste like?

ciphery said:
Getting the tapered 7.62x39 to stack and feed
out of an AR mag is nye impossible......of cource you are only putting 5 in it.....nope 4, 7.62x39 is bigger around that 223....you'd have to reposition the pin if you wanted 5, 7.62 to fit in an AR mag....which would be illegal since you can't mod a mag.
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