Almost lost an eye, please read!

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I think Dr. Phil can say it best:

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Another reasion I dismantle every new/used firearm I buy before I ever fire it. This is really dispicable....
 
I'm glad you wear eye protection.. I rairly if ever wear eye protection and your experiences definately is a wakeup call!

Also, hopefully you get your money back and after wolverine (nice ####in service btw) fixes the 858 I hope you have alot of fun shooting it!
 
Martin said:
I'm glad you were lucky and nothing happened to you but wasn't it a little lightheaded to continue shooting after the first head seperation?:rolleyes:

Considering I shoot steel cased Chinese surplus I figured that I just got a crappy round. Did not even occur to me to check the headspacing. Now I will strip all rifles down that I get used and check the headspacing before firing and make sure they have not been dicked around with.
 
Three things from me:

1) glad you are ok
2)The mods did the right thing, this is a small community/family IMHO and that kinda BS business is not only dishonorable but dangerous
3) Wolverine is a premium dealer for sure...and it has nothing to do with the site dues they pay. My deals with Ryan are top drawer and they stand behind their products and the customer service is something every business should model themselves after.

I say you go after this POS seller and create an uncomfortable experience for him.
 
DAR 701 said:
I have all of his information now right down to rank. Being in Sask. and him being in Ontario makes it not worth going to court for the couple of hundred dollars it will cost to repair the rifle. Going to talk to Wolverine tommorow and give the seller a couple of days to respond to my request for my money back. I kinda doubt I will get a cent but I will try anyways. Definately a good idea to do a search on people's posts when they sell something though! Could have saved myself 650 dollars and a crap load of agitation just by reading his old posts. Live and learn I suppose. Hopefully Wolverine Supplies can fix it up all good and cheap for me.
Question is, would you take action in the form of directing the information of his knaving, dishonest behaviour to his superior officers? I mean, do we want guys like this alongside good men that put themselves in harms way?
 
Winz said:
Question is, would you take action in the form of directing the information of his knaving, dishonest behaviour to his superior officers? I mean, do we want guys like this alongside good men that put themselves in harms way?

I say let him get burned by his superiors and then by his wife, POOR woman...
 
Dar710 if you go to small claim court, you will go to the nearest to you.
If he don't come, you'll win by default.
Then you send a Judicial officer ;)
 
You have some options. Get a refund, return the rifle. Or, get the rifle repaired, and hope for some sort of compensation. Can't see that you could expect a full refund AND repair the rifle and keep it. Or, pursue some legal remedy through the courts. If the receiver is ruined, the only fix is a new receiver. Is there a supply of stripped replacement receivers? Or do replacement parts come from rifles that have been broken for spares? A barrel/receiver assembly is likely the easiest repair.
In some ways the situation with this rifle is not too different from the batch of SKS rifles that Lever sold, with the cobbled together breeching.
 
Icefire said:
Dar710 if you go to small claim court, you will go to the nearest to you.
If he don't come, you'll win by default.
Then you send a Judicial officer ;)


He's right DAR, go to your nearest courthouse and ask for a small claims kit. The process costs about 100 bucks in total to go to court and process your claim. The neat thing is he has to attend or there could be an issue, legally.

Go to the page where his ad was take a screen shot of it and print it off for court. Especially the part that said the shape the gun was in.
 
I know the guy in question, and have heard that the rifle in question was repaired out west due to headspace/ barrel movement issues. I am on an OP right now and I will talk to the individual and find out what is going on.

Again, as everyone clearly stated, it is UNSAT how this got passed on. I am glad you were not injured DAR 701.

I am not defending the guy but I beleive there is more to this story that is told at this moment.

IIRC that rifle in question was purchased at a western gunshop new (I will not name it at this time) it had a headspace issues, was sent back, repaired, sent back, same issue, re sent back, re repaired and sent back... I beleive this was a 6-8 month time period... there is something very fishy here that needs to be investigated.

Since the rifle was not purchased at our gunshop he did not bring it to us for repairs/replacement but sent it back to where he purchased and expected warrenty repair or replcement.

This in itself may raise a bigger question... Why did a reptiable gunshop carry out this shoddy workmanship? and why did they repeat the same repair over and over and potentionaly injure any user of the rifle in question?

This in no way dissolves the person who sold the rifle to DAR 701 of any responsibility for his actions.

Again, I will inquire and get back to you after I get back from this OP.
 
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The plot thickens!!

I don't know about you guys, but I'd love to know who repaired this 858... so I could AVOID them!
 
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