angryness

yes I want to see what is in there, I am 24 years old.... so yes I am young.

I did not say he was poaching, and yes I checked the reg's and "anterless" is open..... the question is did he have a tag ?

as to the "lots of dry cows out there" who cares ??..... the FAT woman harvested a legal animal in a legal and ethical manner. how many coyotes have you killed, how many wolves have you shot ?? there is no harvestable meat on there to feed yourself and they may have young to care for as well.... but as long as it is legal to do it I support your decision to hunt whatever you like.
 
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Hey - no name calling boys! I haven't got time to read this right now but obviously the wheels are coming off a little bit - so everyone mellow. I'll read it later, but play nice pls.
 
Ammunition for the antis

And we wonder why the antis have success? Here we are arguing and insulting each other, when we should be thankful we still have the privledge ( or right depending how you look at it) to hunt and shoot. We are our own worst enemies in the fight to keep our firearms and our traditions, because we can't even get along with each other for the benefit of our sports. THAT'S MY TWO CENTS DAMMIT!!!!
 
crazy_davey said:
He's 13, he is just learning how to rub it the right way :eek:

Well, I guess ### with a fat girl would be a good a start as any :)

I was told by a wise hockey coach once that if you have the chance to do the nasty with a fat girl, not to pass it up. As they will go wild, due to them not knowing when they will get it again.:D
 
CTS said:
I was told by a wise hockey coach once that if you have the chance to do the nasty with a fat girl, not to pass it up. As they will go wild, due to them not knowing when they will get it again.:D
or in fact when you will get the opportunity to do "the nasty" again ! :p :rolleyes:
 
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You have got to be kidding... that is the kind of retarded statement that the antis love. If the FAT lady in question had a tag for the Cow then there is absolutely no doubt that there are enough Cow Moose in that area to sustain a huntable population. There is absolutely no doubt that the tag in question should be filled. And there is absolutely no doubt that whether or not the calf Moose is orphaned has been figured in to the equation by the biologists who manage the Moose herd.
Also there is absolutely no doubt that you are a Math Genius... naught, naught carry the naught...

In my mind, the "antlerless" tag is to harvest old dry cows that are no longer contributing to the herd other than eating up winter feed.

To harvest a cow with a calf is not only leaving a calf to fend for itself, but more importantly killing a cow that:

A. Is a proven calver
B. Is a proven mother (able to keep her calf alive)

Much better off to kill the calf that may not make the winter (or may not be a future good calf producer), or find a dry cow (they're not that uncommon).

We are asked in the Regulations to do so, and in my mind this was piss poor judement on the fat lady's part. Legal - yes... ethical - no!

You Ontario boys can flame me all ya want, but we're not the ones getting all hot and horny when one of the 30 members of our hunting party draws a cow tag... hmmm....must be a hell of a moose management program over there... so much hunter opportunity!

280_ACKLEY
 
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http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/fw/wild/documents/h&t_synopsis_06_07.pdf

ok lets take some quotes from the BC Hunting Regs
Page 3
Calves are much smaller and show a distinctly
"stubby" face. Not all moose in the accompaniment
of a larger moose are necessarily calves.
Be sure of your target

page 73
A few white moose have been noticed in MU
7- 13. Hunters are requested not to shoot a
white moose due to their uniqueness and
viewing value to all people who enjoy wildlife.

Well dam no where does it say anything at all about only taking calves or even suggesting that the calf must be shot and the mother lives.... if someone can point out what page it is listed on please tell me.

Since the provincial bag limit is only 1 moose per person I would be shooting a cow to fill my freezer..... no use going home with half the meat. It also mentions that calves are 1/2 the size of the cow.

hell if I am reading the regulations correctly there is no cow season in 7A area... just calf or 2point / ten point.
 
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Winters said:
If you're looking down a rifle at the calf then me thinks this to be invalid...
Excellent point! The human influence on wildlife can't be discounted. As many have said before, this is the reason that "anterless" tags are issued. It's also the reason there's a draw, and not an open season. People wreck things, its' common knowledge. "Tragedy of the commons" is the term, I believe. Look it up.
 
fwm said:
And we wonder why the antis have success? Here we are arguing and insulting each other, when we should be thankful we still have the privledge ( or right depending how you look at it) to hunt and shoot. We are our own worst enemies in the fight to keep our firearms and our traditions, because we can't even get along with each other for the benefit of our sports. THAT'S MY TWO CENTS DAMMIT!!!!

I somewhat agree with you on that fwm, but because we share the same sport doesn't always guarantee that we will share the same opinions. Even so, a certain amount of respect for others wouldn't hurt either. Anyways, refering to someone who merely opened a topic of discussion a Mouse hunter as opposed to refering to his chosen alias or calling him an idiot doesn't make a big impression. Amazing courage behind the safety of a monitor ;)
 
Gitrdun: You havent been around long enough to know WHY he's getting this, and you wont "get" the post below.....so just leave it alone.


Moose hunter said: "We went back and got the calf"

All this means is that sometime in the next year we're going to see picures of a bear skull that he shot....it'll be a "small" bear though ;)

Hey mousy....lets see a pic of this calf! Surely you'd have taken a pic of your first moose!

Also think about this: The calf had a 50/50 he'd survive. You just made damn sure it had a 100% chance of NOT surviving (bullets have that effect)

Feel guilty?

LMAO.
 
My experience has been that rarely have I seen cow/calf pairings - probably due to high wolf/coyote/bear calf predation. As for whether one takes a cow with or without calf - and potentially removing 1 plus more future moose from the population is a moot point. You can't tell if a solitary cow is bred or not if you come upon her during hunting season in November. Besides, the moose biologists wouldn't have recommended concurrent cow/calf seasons if there wasn't a healthy moose population in that particular area.

That said, can anyone provide good scientific research that shows what calf mortality is when the cow of a cow/calf pairing is harvested, leaving the calf to fend for itself?
 
280_ACKLEY>"You Ontario boys can flame me all ya want, but we're not the ones getting all hot and horny when one of the 30 members of our hunting party draws a cow tag... hmmm....must be a hell of a moose management program over there... so much hunter opportunity!"

280_ACKLEY

Why is there always some-one trying to make it a east vs west thing :rolleyes:
A little common sense & inteligence from your part & you would clearly see that Ont has about 1/4 Kanada's population, or in simpler terms for you to understand, MORE hunters looking to harvest a set number of animals hence larger hunter per animal tag system! :rolleyes:
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CTS said:
I was told by a wise hockey coach once that if you have the chance to do the nasty with a fat girl, not to pass it up. As they will go wild, due to them not knowing when they will get it again.:D

Well that's just NOT TRUE :confused:
Those of us that's been married a number of years knows our ### life hasn't improved :rolleyes: :D
 
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senior said:
"You Ontario boys can flame me all ya want, but we're not the ones getting all hot and horny when one of the 30 members of our hunting party draws a cow tag... hmmm....must be a hell of a moose management program over there... so much hunter opportunity!"

280_ACKLEY

Why is there always some-one trying to make it a east vs west thing :rolleyes:
A little common sense & inteligence from your part & you would clearly see that Ont has about 1/4 Kanada's population, or in simpler terms for you to understand, MORE hunters looking to harvest a set number of animals hence larger hunter per animal tag system! :rolleyes:
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Well that's just NOT TRUE :confused:
Those of us that's been married a number of years knows our ### life hasn't improved :rolleyes: :D


well, how bout the fact that ontario is run by a bunch of goofs? so really, the west does sound alot better than ontario which is full of liberal dip####s;)
 
bone-collector said:
hey iggy dude when your nuts drop come back and play with us !

I think the point he was trying to make was that there are DRY cows out there why take 1 with a calf ? I mean maybe in Ontario folks do that , so what they bait bears as well no reason to hang them, no matter what if its legal its legal, may not be right in some peoples eyes


There sure must be a lot of moose out there so you can just pick & choose the one animal you want to shoot!!
Can't require much of a hunter to just walk out take what? an afternoon and pick one :confused: I think I now understand your line of thinking :rolleyes:

More realistily, you have a tag for the animal in front of you, you may or may not prefer to shoot a cow but you may spend the rest of your hunt & go home empty handed if you let it go!
 
canadian hunter312 said:
well, how bout the fact that ontario is run by a bunch of goofs? so really, the west does sound alot better than ontario which is full of liberal dips**ts;)

Nice intelligent post :)
We don't consider NDP better than Lierals :D
 
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